Talk:Esther Dyson

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Parts of this are poorly written and biased; an expert should revise, and justify the critical commentary. 71.235.202.144 00:56, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Even if an expert doesn't come along, it could still use some paragraph breaks and rewording from anyone with a halfway decent grasp of writing. That "Impact on Computer . . " section is unreadable.-140.247.248.241 20:55, 16 January 2007 (UTC)


 * That paragraph is important in that Dyson has had a huge impact on the computer industry and her amdiration of Bill Gates is on the record, sourced and undeniable. because of her position in the idustry it is essential to understand. It is fact not a point of view. In fact she issues lots of points of view and it is important that people understand the facts. This is neutral because based on sources. I will reinstate it. We can edit it. 75.208.59.185 01:15, 18 January 2007 (UTC)


 * 75.208.59.185 01:28, 18 January 2007 (UTC) Esther Dyson's impact on the computer industry is similar to the one that Dan Rather for example has had on the political scene. Her contributions can't be ignored. The deleted section was:

ORIGINAL Impact on Computer Industry: Dyson from the early days was very close to Bill Gates. She is quoted in Wired as saying: "I might have been more mainstream if I were a guy; I might have wanted to be Bill Gates. " (http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/1.05/dyson_pr.html ). Some say that there was a time when Dyson's influence could be vastly detrimental to anyone in Bill Gates' way in the 80s and early 90s. Bill Gates returned the compliment many times by helping promote Dyson's endeavours. Larry Ellison is quoted after Dyson said that "every software person wants to be Bill Gates" as saying: "I really don't get Esther?". In such some say that Dyson played a crucial political "King Maker" role that was far from neutral. For example in the copyright and patent litigation between Jim Manzi and Borland, Dyson sided for Manzi although the Lotus position was detrimental to innovation. Borland won that case in the Supreme Court, a landmark case for high-tech IPR (Intellectual Property Rights). Generally recognized as smart, Dyson tends to take positions with her close entourage. Her impact on the computer industry has been significant and many would say biased. In her first conferences, Dyson sided with Gates against Open Source. It took Dyson several years and the successful momentum of Open Source to have her support the new industry trend.

That wasn't very well written. I took a stab at re-writing it:more concise and NPOV

NEW Dyson from the early days admired Bill Gates. She is quoted by Wired as saying: "I might have been more mainstream if I were a guy; I might have wanted to be Bill Gates. " (http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/1.05/dyson_pr.html ). Dyson is further quoted as saying "every software person wants to be Bill Gates" to which Larry Ellison replied: "I really don't get Esther?". Dyson's impact on the computer industry has been significant and many would say not neutral.


 * You edited out the whole section about IPR. That is meaningful and significant if correct. Those aren't sourced and look like hearsay. Are there any references to all of this? Anyone? 75.209.134.111 01:36, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

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75.208.157.0 06:58, 9 February 2007 (UTC) I edited out some nasty personal attacks that have no place here. Thank you for staying away from this.

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