Talk:Esther de Jong

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Her name needs to be in Capitals Esther De Jong please, it's her name and should be capitalized.
 * 23:24, 10 February 2015‎ Wgolf (talk | contribs)‎ m . . (96 bytes) (0)‎ . . (Wgolf moved page Talk:Esther de Jong to Talk:Esther De Jong)
 * 23:19, 10 February 2015‎ Alexwilhelmina (talk | contribs)‎ . . (96 bytes) (+96)‎ . . (←Created page with 'Her name needs to be in Capitals Esther De Jong please, it's her name and should be capitalized.')


 * No it shouldn't. You don't know Dutch spelling conventions, and it's commonly done wrong in English sources. I'm not saying there are no cases where people self-identify with these alternative spellings or the English name is different from the Dutch name, but here it's just wrong. Prinsgezinde (talk) 23:46, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Requested move 16 June 2018

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The result of the move request was: consensus to move the page as requested, per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 07:13, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

Esther De Jong → Esther de Jong – This move, apparently on unsubstantiated request of the unsigned editor above, frankly should not have been conducted. In Dutch naming, a tussenvoegsel is never capitalized when the full name is used. Many Anglicized versions of Dutch names do use capital letters, but De Jong is a Dutch person, making this a misapplication of those substandard norms. Reliable sources support this (and probably actually checked it with her—,, ). Prinsgezinde (talk) 00:06, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Support – this capping of De is manglement of the name, whether in Dutch or English. Dicklyon (talk) 03:39, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Support – restore to correct spelling per WP:DUTCHNAMES. In ictu oculi (talk) 06:32, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Support. This shouldn't have "De" except for someone (probably North American, British, Australian, or otherwise just "of Dutch extraction" X ancestors back), who is known for a fact to consistently spelling it "De Jong".  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  11:34, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Support עם ישראל חי (talk) 16:16, 20 June 2018 (UTC)


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