Talk:Estimate (horse)

present as an 80th birthday
I think the related statement should be corrected since when the Queen was 80 years old in 2006, Estimate was not born given that her birth year is 2009. The source also confirms that in 2006 it was planned by Aga Khan to give her a horse as a present, three years later Estimate was born. Egeymi (talk) 22:10, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Not Estimate but her dam was given as a birthday present to the Queen.Egeymi (talk) 08:45, 22 June 2013 (UTC) Though it says it in the article is this definitely true? During this period the Queen had a 'deal' with the Aga Khan where certain of his mares were available to the Queen and where if the mare produced a filly she paid for the cost of the mating and kept the filly. She now has about 5 mares in the Royal Stud that emanated from this agreement: Estimate being just one of them. Julian Muscat covers this in his book 'Her majesty's Pleasure'. Estimate was her dam's last foal so one cannot refute the statement in the article by saying there was a foal born afterwards that became the Aga Khan's.(Victor Middlesex (talk) 15:45, 15 June 2016 (UTC)). In fact the first paragraph (or the inset box for that matter) don't make any sense because Estimate is stated as being bred by the Aga Khan!! SHurely Shome mistake. When she won and in all results sheets she was listed as bred by the AK. I think the Muscat reference is more credible. (Victor Middlesex (talk) 15:51, 15 June 2016 (UTC)) Looking at my records I think the best way to phrase this is that in 2006 the Aga Khan offered as a birthday present the availability of a number of his mares. The agreement was that for the selected mares that if the produce was a filly that the Queen should receive that filly. So it was initiated in 2007 and in 2008 the Queen took ownership of 4 fillies (Treasured, Star Value, Key Point and Set to Music). In 2009 she took ownership of 2 fillies, Sequence and ESTIMATE. The scheme appears to have concluded in 2012 and so ran for 5 years. The Royal Stud now houses 5 mares that have emanated from this scheme and includes Estimate. I will adjust the text and get the reference as soon as possible(Victor Middlesex (talk) 10:29, 17 June 2016 (UTC)).

COMPASSIONATE PAIN-RELIEF I assume the horse, Estimate, was given morphine by a compassionate carer because of terrorist assaults on the horse by the criminally insane terrorist Mordecais.

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