Talk:Estonian Orthodox Church

Target of religious prosecution
The story of religious persecution is not even POV; it's just plain wrong.

The facts of the matter are that the Moscow Patriarchate's church attempted to get itself registered under the very same name already used by the Constantinople Patriarchate's church. Name duplication is not allowed by law, and for a good reason -- and the church refused for years to consider having another name, instead finding it more profitable to make nonsense claims of persecution in media. Digwuren 07:05, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Please don't put this prosecution text back. It's definitely not a place for the disambiguation page. The problem is more complex, and it should be discussed on the main article controversy section. Adding this text here is just childish mud throwing and serves no good purpose in ecyclopedia. Suva 10:29, 14 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I agree with this edit by User:Alexia Death. The original version was NPOV. Someone however insisted on adding a mentions on the "legality" of the smaller church. If we include the legality of one side on the split, then we must also include the illegality of the other side of the split. Saying "illegal" or "underground church" would however be POV. The encyclopedic way of expressing the situation is "religious persecution". -- Petri Krohn 18:14, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * P.S. Who the hell gave Lutheran and atheist Estonians the authority to rule over canonical issues in the Eastern Orthodox Church? -- Petri Krohn 18:19, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Moscow Patriarchate (as well as Constantinople Patriarchate, to be fair) has nothing to do with canons, as it is marred with the heresy of ecumenism. This is all about business.Colchicum 18:25, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Please dont put the POV text back on this page
Put it in the articles where they are countered in sensibel fashon. Current form is completley neutral, sol ets agree on not messing with it?--Alexia Death 11:30, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Nationalist myths about "Tharbata" and the 5th-century fort-building Estonians will not be tolerated. We should beware of fringecruft. --Ghirla-трёп- 12:06, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't see the relation of this comment to the current disambiguation page. Suva 12:10, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * My bad. If Alexia proposes to stop editing the disambiguation page, I'm all for it. --Ghirla-трёп- 12:15, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm glad, you agree. You need to provide sources for those believer counts tho. Not here but in the articles. I left them in place for the readers but they must come from somewhere, and when sourced the rough numbers can be replaced with more exact ones... When that is done I see no need to modify this page.--Alexia Death 12:28, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree that figures should be cited, but I hold no interest in this issue. --Ghirla-трёп- 12:33, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * That's strange. In light of your request, perhaps you would like to briefly characterise what aspects of History of Estonia do interest you? Digwuren 13:16, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Two churches.
Imagine that. Does someone want to write an article detailing the tension between these two? It would be nice to have such an article in the See also section of this page, so users who thought there to be only one church can get the story. Taemyr 00:36, 17 June 2007 (UTC)