Talk:Ethan Rom

Name
Could the name have something to do with Ethan Frome, the novel by Edith Wharton? --JJMerelo 18:32, 19 May 2007 (UTC) How about Ethan Brand (from Hawthorn) a "lost soul" who had committed the "unpardonable sin"

of useing people as means to his own ends rather than treating them as humans. 75.191.157.40 (talk) 08:21, 11 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Probably just a coincidence, seeing as the Oceanic Airlines website confirmed his name as an anagram of "Other Man." --thedemonhog talk • edits • count  19:19, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Title
Regarding the scrubbing of "Dr." -- Academic titles are certainly not used for real people (see, say, Jonas Salk or just about anybody). The only exception is if the title is part of the person's stage name (say, Dr. Seuss). Compare how it is handled for Dr. Phil -- the titled version is the name of his show, but the article on the man itself addresses him as Phil McGraw, making a note to the effect that he is known as "Dr. Phil." Why that should possibly be different for fictional characters, I can't imagine. Frankly, since I don't think Ethan is ever addressed as "Dr. Rom," I think applying the title to his name is jumping the gun. But in any event, I think the style used on non-fictional doctors should be the guide. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.197.31.27 (talk) 13:04, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Ethan's supernatural strength?
The article doesn't mention Ethan's exceptional physical skills. Anybody else find it odd that he was able to drag 2 unconscious people through the jungle for miles, that it took six bullets to down him, and that he was able to string Charlie up in a tree yards overhead? I thought it was implied in some way that he was almost superhuman.--Erikacornia (talk) 20:20, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 * There's definitely a podcast where this comes up. Darlton's response is "he's just strong." Tphi (talk) 20:36, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

I commented on this on the OTHERS's page, where in their early apperances, many of the other's exhibited what could be extrordinary strength, speed, and stealth. While I have noted that since the season 2 finale, the Other's don't seem to do that anymore, and wonder if the Swan Station's implosion/sky turning purpble had anything to do with it. Also, according to Charlie, there were 'other people' with them, but he was blindfolded and all they talked about was Kate, so I am assuming that there were more then just Ethan there for the kidnapping. Whippletheduck (talk) 15:09, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Possible Time Paradox
We don't know anything yet, but it is entirely possible that Daniel is wrong about the "Whatever Happened, Happened" when it comes to time traveling (perhaps time cannot be altered off the island, but can on it). If there is any error in Farraday's plan, then time may have already been shifted if in Annie was SUPPOSED to be kidnapped by the Other's and Ethan raised amongst them; and now instead is being raised by the Dharma Initiative instead. Whippletheduck (talk) 15:12, 28 March 2009 (UTC)


 * What are you talking about? – thedemonhog   talk  •  edits  19:41, 28 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm referring to the Time Paradoxes, first with Sawyer and his crew interfering (if they did) with Annie's abuduction by the Other's in the jungle....if that was NOT supposed to happen, then we have a paradox as perhaps Ethan was SUPPOSED to have been born and raised amongst the Other's. Not putting it in the main article as we don't have enough to go on this though.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Whippletheduck (talk • contribs) 00:47, 29 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Ooooohhh, you meant Amy. – thedemonhog   talk  •  edits  02:55, 29 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Be that as it may, I wrote this BEFORE the episode that showed he was an Other by age 11. Before that episode aired, there were a lot of people at a message board I post at, that were wondering if Farraday was 100% wrong about the past not being able to be changed, that people whom go back in time CAN change things, but it has to be major or Eloise Hawking's "The Universe Corrects Itself" would come into play.  To us, it seemed that perhaps if Amy was SUPPOSED to be captured and her child (Ethan) was supposed to be raised amongst the Other's, and now that has been altered was what I was thinking when I wrote that originally.


 * Interesting, though, how Faraday also came to that same conclusion........Whippletheduck (talk) 04:35, 1 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Had to read that a few times over. – thedemonhog   talk  •  edits  07:32, 1 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, like I said, it is interesting how Faraday ended up coming to the same conclusion I did regarding time travel. I am  a huge fan of the Dragonlance novels, where Time Travel has come into play.  In that, if any of the primary races (humans, elf, ogre) time travels, it does not matter what they do as nothing they do can affect history.  But if any of the 'chaos' races (dwarves, goblins, kender-a halfling like race, etc) were to time travel, because they were not intended to be 'part of the universe', they can affect the past.  In LOST, my theory is that people that are IN the past can't change anything, but people that have traveled back in time can because they are back in time.  Of course, this will run afoul of Eloise Hawking's "The Universe Corrects It's Own Path" theory, which of course makes one scratch their head.  Whippletheduck (talk) 17:31, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Age
The article mentions Dr. Rom as being 27 years old. Not possible, his senescence is too advanced for such a young age. If his Wikipedia age is true, why is there no mention of why he looks to be at least 40 years old? - Mdriver1981 (talk) 04:02, 2 October 2009 (UTC)


 * That is your opinion and this is a TV show. Ethan is born in July 1977 in the episodes "LaFleur"/"Namaste" of the fifth season.  See also No original research.  – thedemonhog   talk  •  edits  05:05, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
 * ya... you still didn't answer my question. - Mdriver1981 (talk) 19:43, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, I did. The reason to why there is no mention is the "no original research" policy.  – thedemonhog   talk  •  edits  23:29, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, so you're telling me that Lost has never provided an explanation as to why Dr. Ethan Rom looks older than his years? If so, fine. Being that you eat, sleep and breathe Lost, I will assume that you have a command knowledge of the show. - Mdriver1981 (talk) 17:09, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
 * No the show never provided an answer, wanting us to believe Ethan is younger than the redhead chick. It's a lot to swallow! And Ethan must have had a difficult 27 years. Truth be told, you can think of it as a mistake by the writers. 68.254.174.98 (talk) 17:28, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Merge proposal
I come with this proposal to merge Ethan into the list of characters because the article has not managed to prove notability of its subject. With this, I mean that Ethan has not received deep coverage by reliable secondary sources, discussing the character independently and not as part of an episode review or just a couple of lines. He also has not shown any impact in popular culture. His page is really poor if compared to other characters, including supporting ones like Tom, who is also a supporting "Other" and has become a Good Article. Thoughts? -- LoЯd  ۞pεth  19:38, 13 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Since there was no opposition nor any improvement of the article, the merger is being performed. -- LoЯd  ۞pεth  01:05, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

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