Talk:Ethnic groups in South Africa

Race/racial groups
I don't believe it is correct to use the words race or racial in this article, and it is unsourced. Where does Stats SA "define" any groups, let alone "racial groups"? The Census 2011 household questionnaire only lists "population groups", asking in respect of each household member "How would (name) describe him/herself in terms of population group?". Helen Online  06:57, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Copy-edited with source. Helen  Online  20:45, 25 August 2013 (UTC)


 * South Africa prides itself as the "rainbow nation", but the dark legacy of bygone Apartheid continues to impact the nation. 75-80% Black natives (including upwards to 5 million Sub-Saharan African immigrants, and Bushmen in the Northern Cape whose history predate the Bantus), 10-15% white Europeans (the majority being Afrikaners- Dutch/Flemish and German Protestant with some French Huguenot ancestry, but other European ethnic groups like Germans, Portuguese, Italians, Greeks, Croats, Poles and over 150,000 Jews), mixed-race Cape Coloureds and 5% Asians (Indians/South Asians, as well Chinese, Malays, Indonesians, and Arabs from Southwest Asia; and in smaller numbers Filipinos, Japanese, Koreans and Vietnamese). South Africa has a minuscule number of Chileans from South America, and Polynesian Maori from New Zealand which like India is historically part of the global British empire, and South Africa is part of the Anglophone world (Over 2 million English, with Scottish, Welsh and Irish descendants-Eire or Republic of Ireland formerly part of the UK). South Africa did not include Botswana and Zimbabwe (formerly Rhodesia) nor the enclave Lesotho and Swaziland which are African tribal kingdoms, but briefly ruled Namibia, 1918-90. 67.49.89.214 (talk) 19:38, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Is this article necessary?
Please see WPSA discussion. Helen Online  07:48, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

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User:Untrammeled's edits
This user, without any reliable sources whatsoever insists on removing all references to "Black South Africans" from the articles and wishes to replace them with "Indigenous South Africans".

Bantu expansion is a well documented historical event that debunks this bogus proposition. The Khoisan, who are the actual indigenous nation of Southern Africa, are as unrelated to the Bantu peoples as the Indo-Aryans are to the Dravidians.

Moreover it's clear that this user is simply here to push a black supremacist race agenda, have a look at how they vandalised the Jan van Riebeek page. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jan_van_Riebeeck&type=revision&diff=874963265&oldid=874574734

This is clearly not the behaviour of someone who is here to build an encyclopaedia based on reliable sources. --Spirit of the night (talk) 14:08, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

User:Spirit of the night
My edits to the article follows protocol of Wikipedia and the valid sources of the information about South Africa's official understand, the contribution set by me are to elaborate clarity and fact, there's no agenda to vandalize good work but add on to its affect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Untrammeled (talk • contribs) 05:35, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Ethnic groups in South Africa editors
Please do your your own satisfying but full research before using emotions to dispute the article at hand. Untrammeled (talk) 05:42, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

What is there to discuss?
there's nothing to discuss, they are African, they mark their bank or any other information section as 'African' yes it i one of their race box name they mark, that's their accepted ethnicity or understanding as they are ever since they made themselves clear, putting South African in brackets next to it is to dispel confusion from the other Africans reading this article who are not of South Africa. So this isn't really meant for any real discussion, it's a common name everywhere that black people of South Africa rake themselves as Africans who are called by Americans 'Black', the rest of the world call African. It's been used as so ever since, mending it to any form is just requesting deprivation and limiting not in their interest. Untrammeled (talk) 22:55, 9 December 2019 (UTC)


 * First, if someone disagrees with you, there's automatically something to discuss. (WP:ENGAGE is the page to read here.) Second, why does Statistics South Africa use "Black African" then? Wikiacc (¶) 22:59, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
 * The text of the article uses "Black South African". The map legend needs to match the language used in the article. However, the article itself claims that Statistics South Africa uses the classification "Black". We really should be using the terms that the actual census used. --Khajidha (talk) 01:27, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

Ethnic vs Racial
I believe the title of this article should be "Racial Groups of South Africa", as these groupings are quite obviously racial and not ethnic. This would suggest that all South Africans of the same race share a culture, which is not true. CapingThroughTheBlue (talk) 06:57, 1 January 2021 (UTC)


 * I concur. Pedalsnake (talk) 09:20, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 15 October 2022
Could someone please revert these two revisions? Thanks! --IanDBeacon (talk) 20:01, 15 October 2022 (UTC) IanDBeacon (talk) 20:01, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ethnic_groups_in_South_Africa&action=history#:~:text=15%3A35%2C%20October%2015%2C%202022
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ethnic_groups_in_South_Africa&oldid=1116278312
 * Full-protection-unlocked.svg Not done: The page's protection level has changed since this request was placed. You should now be able to edit the page yourself. If you still seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. Aidan9382 (talk) 05:54, 20 October 2022 (UTC)