Talk:Eufrosinia Kersnovskaya

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Sorry! How can I find user Mikkolai? Thanks, Kersnovskaia Foundation

For someone that was supposed to be in a work camp
She sure had enough time to draw some pretty pictures and write a lot... did she do any work?

-G —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.117.158.83 (talk) 03:54, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * She did the drawings after she left Gulag... And if you look at the drawings depicting the atrocities that those people went through, you'd know better than to make fun of them.  In one of the pictures she is standing over the tombs with a shovel burying corpses saying "It's just a chance that I'm not with you yet."  RoseOfKali (talk) 22:21, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Her ethnicity
What was her ethnicity? She must have been Russian or Ukrainian. Right? --Candide, or Optimism 19:56, 28 January 2006 (UTC)


 * She was from a Russian nobility, but grew up in Bessarabia abakharev 22:20, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Her drawings
I inserted back her drawings. If there are any rules about a maximal proportion of figures and text in WP (are they?), I would increase the text rather than delete these pictures.Biophys 06:49, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Pictures are available via the commons link. The only policy about the images is WP:NOT wikipedia is not an image hosting site, articles consisted solely of the gallery of images are not allowed. The proportion is aesthetic mostly. Thus, I would not interfere with the insertion and deletion of the gallery. Both ways are fine with me. When I negotiated placing those images with the Kersnovky Foundation they have asked for the maximal visibility Alex Bakharev 07:10, 4 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you. According to WP:NOT, we should not include "Mere collections of photographs or media files with no text to go with the articles. If you are interested in presenting a picture, please provide an encyclopedic context..." WP:NOT. So, it would be a good idea to add more encyclopedic context here. A question. How many of her drawings are available in electronic form? Only those in Wikimedia? Where to a look at her other pictures?Biophys 14:14, 4 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I think that meaning of many drawings is not clear for an average reader who does not know details of the life in Gulag. Each drawing should be supplemented by an explanation.Biophys 04:28, 6 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I will try to supplement more in-depth translations to some of the images. I already did a couple.  Once you understand their context, you will really start to get a clearer idea of how horrible life there really was.  My grandmother was in one of those as a Ukrainian who was helping Partizans, she had a thyroid surgery done with no anesthesia at all, was starved and worked to exhaustion most of the time, and beaten during interrogations to reveal accomplices whose names she never gave out.  My other grandmother was sent to lumber work for a crime she did not commit.  They had a rope you had to follow to go feed the pigs, and if you lost the rope, you'd be found frozen to death in the middle of winter, because the white-out snow storms made it impossible to find your way back.  RoseOfKali (talk) 22:27, 6 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I did my best with the translations. Some images were too small to read, especially since the script is archaic and took me a bit to figure out, so I left those alone.  Some captions needed varying degrees of corrections due to improper translation or interpretation (the olympic champion's caption was completely wrong - it never said that in the text, in fact the doctor made him better and he was sent to attend boilers, a relatively easy job).  Of those that I could read, I tried to provide the best short description of the text, or quote the underlined headers, though some were out of context (belonging to the text/image of a different page than the one they appeared on).  I wasn't sure how to go about formatting these, so I kind of did what made sense to me, which resulted in non-uniform styles, but that's something anyone can clean up.  Let me know if you have more questions or requests on this topic or any others where I could translate, I'll be glad to help.  RoseOfKali (talk) 06:56, 8 March 2009 (UTC)


 * New publication.Biophys (talk) 04:07, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Artists in Gulag
Another interesting artist: Nikolai Getman. Biophys 14:30, 4 July 2007 (UTC)