Talk:Eugene (wrestler)

Criticism
Is there no recorded criticism of this the Eugene persona (i.e. as deprecatory toward mentally challenged individuals?) --Dpr 09:35, 4 September 2005 (UTC)


 * why should there be?


 * For the most part, Dinsmore's Eugene character has been well-received. This is a bit surprising, seeing as how WWE has a history of creating deprecatory characters based on stereotypes (see: Muhammad Hussan, Billy/Chuck, et al).  I think the angle works well because the way they portray Eugene isn't necessarily just a caricature of the mentally challenged.  I think it also helps that he is used as more than just a gimmicky source of entertainment—he received a genuine push, and seems to be treated less as a "mentally-challenged wrestler" and more of a wrestler who happens to be mentally challenged.


 * Of course, none of what I just said has to do with your comment, but this does: there hasn't been a significant enough backlash for it to warrant much of a mention, at least in my opinion. Jeff Silvers 05:45, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm inclined to agree. I don't find criticism worth mentioning unless it gains steam.
 * Although I wish the WWE let him wrestle as Nick "Mr. Wrestling" Dinsmore. He was very technical back in Ohio Valley Wrestling --Godaiger


 * Yeah i've heard some backlash but its not consistent or relevant, and i too have heard he is a great technical wrestler and also competent on the mic, so its a shame that he's used for such a lame gimmick


 * How about the fact that the character of "Eugene" was stolen by WWE from a comedian? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.72.84.29 (talk) 19:10, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

I just wanted to add this to the arguement, look at what Jeff Silvers said. He said if the backlash is enough to be warrented then it should be added in. Well Cena doesn't have a backlash section so there must be some bias somewhere in this situation. AD Double J 03:22, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Tell us your reaction
How did you feel about Eugene getting beaten up by The Sandman?--Ed-kipedia 20:22, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

That stupid-ass deserved every shot and 50 more.

I L'dMAO Cardboard boxA 11:15, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

I think its good sandman met someone with the same iq Sailor cuteness 22:22, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Picture
Shouldn't we have a new pic of eugene since he has a haircut? Sha0000 30 March 2007

Les Kellet
A number of Eugene's comedic moves (especially some of his staggers and falls) are reminiscent of the British Wrestler Les Kellet. As Dave "Fit Finlay and Steven/William Regal both wrestled in the UK at that time this may not be coincidence --217.38.244.254 12:11, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

WCW Run?
I seem to remember seeing him in WCW at one point near... 1997ish?24.226.27.146 01:21, 24 August 2007 (UTC)Quadrophenic youth 06:12, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

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No longer works for the WWE
omg me and my sister couldn't believe it when we heard eugene had been releashed from his wwe contract.I wonder wat happened i hope it doesn't have anything to do wit da drug scandal dats happening. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.72.233.105 (talk) 04:30, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

if it does id be really suprised! i could never imagain eugene taking drugs! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.207.161.152 (talk) 10:39, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Yeahhhh. Sorry to burst your bubble but he was released due to a Wellness violation. Furioku 12:02, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

It's not really that surprising. A few years ago he went into rehab beccause they found him passed out in a hotel lobby. He was probably still on the prescription drugs and got booted because of the new wellness policy. Maxwagner7 14:26, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

I think it's interesting how the WWE website states they have released Eugene. Usually they'd give the wrestler's real name. I may be grasping at straws, but this might just be a super-sweet work that will allow them to "hire" Nick Dinsmore since the Eugene character is now very tired and stale and Dinsmore apparently hates it. In either instance, no matter where he works from now on, I suspect we may see Red Rooster Syndrome as he'll always be Eugene in the minds of the fans. At least, the fans who want to chant and rip on him. --L T Dangerous 15:04, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Don't expect to see Nick Dinsmore in any form. He was released Saturday at the ECW/Smackdown! taping because of violates of the wellness policy. Basically, meaning that he is one of the, now 13, wrestler caught with steroids. The reason Eugene was released and not suspended was because he had been caught with steroids before. --Milkman 22:11, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Nick ‘Eugene’ Dinsmore has re-signed with WWE. They want him to help groom young talent tpww.net & wreslteview.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.20.203.119 (talk) 01:16, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

ECW
No is there no mention of Nick time in ECW mean he a former ECW TV champion for crying out loud Supermike —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.111.95.147 (talk) 14:38, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
 * he is not a former ecw tv champion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.117.51.161 (talk) 21:05, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

He wrestles as Ugene Dinsmore, not Eugene Dinsmore
I linked a source that shows he wrestles as "Ugene" Dinsmore now, not "Eugene" (WWE copyright) Dinsmore, yet it was removed, replaced with Eugene and the source removed for no legitimate reason. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.71.72.82 (talk) 12:37, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Clean-up and Citations
"Upon his return to OVW he claimed he woke up from a nightmare. That nightmare was that he was in the WWE as Eugene."

I believe that line warrants the need for a cited source. And that both the article and the discussion page could use a clean-up. Soylent.Hero (talk) 08:24, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Mental retardation
Shouldn’t our article at least mention that Eugene’s persona is supposed to be mentally challenged? It’s his whole gimmick, but it’s not mentioned ... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.251.135.239 (talk) 12:59, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

It most certainly should say something about that and anybody who thinks otherwise must have the mental capacity of the Eugene character. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.60.128.75 (talk) 17:54, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the proposal was moved. --BDD (talk) 21:35, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Nick Dinsmore → Eugene (wrestler) – By far, this is his best known name. It's the only name he's ever used in a worldwide wrestling promotion. GeicoHen (talk) 23:24, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
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Best known for...
I would question the statement in the lede that he is "best known for his time in Ohio Valley Wrestling". Wrestling fans might argue that is where he had his greatest achievements, but for the general reader he is mainly known for his run in the WWE.  Tigerboy1966  16:14, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
 * OVW is the company where Dinsmore spent more time (as wrestler and trainer) and won more titles. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 16:31, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Definitely, but it's like if a tree falls in the forest. We're talking exposure when we say "best known", not time or titles. When WWE brags about Raw ratings beating everything or touring most of the known world, they're not working us. And Eugene wasn't just in WWE, he was featured with household names like Hulk Hogan, Triple H and Kurt Angle (among other headliners). Johnny Jeter and Flash Flanagan are cool with me, but it is a bit like comparing ice cream to horse manure. Or, to be less of a weasel, the best known show to something like the eighth best known. InedibleHulk (talk) 01:10, 6 January 2014 (UTC)


 * I noticed a logic problem here. We said he was best known as Eugene, but was best known for his OVW work. He was only Eugene in WWE. I think I reworded it so both sides win. Fair enough? InedibleHulk (talk) 04:54, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

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