Talk:Eugene F. Lally

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I have recreated the article, which had been restored/userfied at my request. I took out some of the more peacocky parts, and tagged other items as needing sources. And I added a bunch of sources, with quotes, to establish notability, but I haven't worked their content into the article yet. I'm hoping someone else will work on it, since I'm on wikibreak doing another project; I labeled it a stub until someone does. Dicklyon (talk) 07:13, 14 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Why was this restored? It never should have been, none of the sources establish notability and is in direct contravention of the consensus to delete this article. It now seems that an IP editor has bastardised the page and unsurprisingly POV pushing elsewhere, . Prodding. ChiZeroOne (talk) 17:37, 1 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Like I said above, I have added under "more sources" quite a few secondary sources about him and his work, with quotes. I have copies if you need to see them.  It would be good to incorporate some of these into the article (and remove some of what he added himself, I agree).  But notability is clearly no longer in question, given the sources.  Dicklyon (talk) 21:09, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Moved from article mainspace
The following is a draft section removed from the artocle mainspace, moved to talk where it belongs. Polyamorph (talk) 07:35, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

More sources, with notes/quotes to incorporate into the article


















Clean-up
It probably is not fair to call what I have done a "clean-up" as I have removed much of the self-promoting content contributed by anonymous IPs I presume are all Lally. I nominated this article for deletion twice but certain long-term editors considered it worth keeping for reasons never made clear to me. Although they acknowledged the shortcomings of this article at the time no one ever made any effort to correct them. I ignored this article for a long time but I grew frustrated as the outrageous and inflated claims made in this article were appearing all over the internet, uncritically copied from this article as "facts". As I feel his unchallenged claims diminish the real contributions of actual space and technology pioneers I finally have rewritten this article in the proper critical tone. Lally is interesting as he really was an eyewitness to an important time in U.S. space exploration history but he is much like the character "Major Hoople" in the newspaper comic strip, Our Boarding House: He was there, but his actual contributions were nowhere near as significant as he remembers them. Aldebaran66 (talk) 17:42, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Posthumous edits 2014-10-16
I was totally shocked by the 'Clean-Up' of Aldebaran66. It was not as much of a clean-up but more like discrediting the life and work of a genius. Your explanation of your 'clean-up' is an outrage all by itself. Comparing him to a comic strip character and calling him a liar is an outrageous insult. Who gives you the right to violate his legacy? As an outsider who knows nothing about Mr. Lally, you simply don't have the right to decide what is true or not. What sources do you rely on? The five percent of the internet that Google makes available to you? Ever heard of personal documents and files, personal correspondence and eye-witness testimonies that have NOT found it's way to the internet? If you were able to Google at all you would have easily found out that Lally did not found his company in 2004 but in the early sixties. He was already inventing and developing non-space products back then. Aside from that, what makes you think your name has to be on a patent to be an inventor? This is the biggest crap I have ever heard. How can you post that on Wikipedia? Lally has invented a lot of things even before you were born. As a teenager he invented a solution to the red-eye problem caused by flash on color film. This solution was published in a photo magazine and is still in use today. Neither the article nor the photo magazine have made it to the web so far, so according to your theory it's a lie then? You above all should know that in the sixties, during the cold war, NASA did NOT publish EVERY article, document, white paper, thesis or space mission design publically. A tremendous lot of research in the fields of space exploration, space travel and work from the imaging industry is still inaccessible! Lally published so much more that you are not even closely aware of. Also the fact that you wrote that Mr. Lally only CLAIMED to have been working with Krafft Ehricke is hilarious. He was on Ehricke's team and kept a good friendship with him and his family even after Ehricke died. There is proof of that. Oh sorry, I forgot, that's NOT available on the internet, so it's a lie then. Because you don't have access to that material, it doesn't exist? I have the benefit of having been an acquaintance to Mr. Lally and am still in contact with his family after his death. If you knew him, which apparently you didn't, you would have known that Mr. Lally was one of the kindest persons in the world and would never have told untruthful stories just to make himself interesting. I, as only a few people in this world, know the very reason why he self-promoted so much from 2002 onwards, you don't and I am certainly not going to tell you because you are not worthy of knowing this. (Dennomanno (talk) 09:11, 16 October 2014 (UTC))

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R.I.P. Dr. Lally
I had an email correspondence with Dr. Lally back in 2010 (we had a lot in common, like digital photography inventions, working at JPL, etc., about a generation apart). He sent me a packet of his publications, and I added some info to the article, but not really as much as I could have. I just noticed that since then he has passed away, and that there has been some argument about the degree to which things he wanted credit for were justified, and so on. I have the papers still, and can share them with anyone neutral who wants to help even this out. On the one hand, I think his contributions were under-recognized in his lifetime; on the other hand, I realize we can't just take his work for how great his contributions were. We just need to neutrally report what he did, which is a lot! Dicklyon (talk) 23:47, 9 July 2022 (UTC)


 * I would be interested in some of those papers - specifically any regarding early matrix/digital-like photography. CarlJoseph (talk) 23:22, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
 * (completed via email) Dicklyon (talk) 00:47, 3 January 2024 (UTC)