Talk:Eureka Prometheus Project

I started this article since the Prometheus project was the most influential project in the history of driverless cars. But there is so much more left to say on the achievements of this project. Hopefully others will fill in some details. In particular, there should be a list of all the universities and car manufacturers that participated in the 1980s and 1990s. Science History 13:32, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Images & copyright
Is anybody out there in a legal position to upload images of some of the many autonomous cars developed in the EUREKA Prometheus Project by the numerous participants? Science History 13:41, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Links on information
Can you please post where you got this information from? ie references etc. Thanks in advance Dkn07 00:11, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

What happened at the end of the project?
It is interesting to me that there is no work mentioned since 1995 (12 years before this writing). What happened? My instinct is that there was some kind of setback (financial? technical? personal? who pulled the plug? and why?) This should be mentioned, for the sake of NPOV, and also because no story is complete without the ending. Does anyone know the facts? Could we contact someone who worked on the project towards the end? -- CharlesGillingham 22:01, 23 August 2007 (UTC)


 * See note at Talk:VaMP -- CharlesGillingham 21:50, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

The "project" was not a bunch of engineers working together, but a funding initiative by the EC (later EU), with the the local motor industry. The funding ran it's course, left it's impact on European technology, and that was enough. One must remember that the commission's budget in Europe is much, much smaller than the Federal Government of the USA - as Europe is not a federation. But I digress into constitutional matters. Prometheus was not stopped, it simply ran it's course.

The web-site to dig up for info it http://eureka.be, but it often suffers technical difficultes. I found some interesting PDFs under http://www.eureka.be/inaction/librarySearchResult.do?folder=/public/Eureka/Projects/Project_Library/Categories/ROB having searched for "prometheus". Samfreed 08:15, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Spelling, grammar, etc.
Seems to me that it was first written in US English, so it should stay that way. But, it is in Europe.... However, the UK isn't part of the EU, so I doesn't really concern them. In my opinion, this should be US spelling. Also, there is some very awkward wording. "Today's money"? Shouldn't that be "the current exchange rate"? Also, it needs to be stated what dollar is meant. US (I would assume this is the case)? Canadian? Australian?

The Editor 2 17:55, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

UK is in EU ! and Jaguar were part of the PROMETHEUS project. "Seems to me that it was first written in US English," isn't good English, and I am an Englishman. Should be "It seems to me that it was first written in poor English" ...

...the basis for most subsequent work on driverless cars...
I have been working on and around driverless cars since 1998 and hadn't heard about Prometheus before today, so I question the veracity of this. A citation would help. 128.2.13.143 (talk) 20:00, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Improper inline external links
I have removed the following text from the article because it contains prohibited inline external links. Please fix this formatting before restoring the text to the article. BD2412 T 00:25, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

"The next culmination point was achieved in 1995, when Dickmanns´ re-engineered autonomous S-Class Mercedes-Benz took a 1000 mi trip from Munich in Bavaria to Copenhagen in Denmark and back, using saccadic computer vision and transputers to react in real time. The robot achieved speeds exceeding 175 km/h on the German Autobahn, with a mean time between human interventions of 9 km. In traffic it executed manoeuvres to pass other cars. Despite being a research system without emphasis on long distance reliability, it drove up to 158 km without any human intervention. Dickmann for his contributions to autonomous driving received the Eduard-Rhein-Foundation Technology Award 2017 for "For Pioneering Contributions to Autonomic Driving" http://www.eduard-rhein-stiftung.de/entscheidende-beitraege-zum-autonomen-fahren/

PROMETHEUS PRO-COM was driven by Daimler-Benz, [Robert Bosch (Blaupunkt, Hildesheim)] https://www.bosch.de/ and two teams of [RWTH-Aachen University] http://www.rwth-aachen.de/go/id/a/?, namely teams of [Otto Spaniol] https://www.comsys.rwth-aachen.de/team/otto-spaniol/ and [Bernhard Walke] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Walke.

Main results were drive measurements at 5.9 GHz to characterize the vehicle-to-vehicle (V2V) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle-to-vehicle [radio propagation] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_propagation. Further, [Medium Access Control] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium_access_control [communication protocols] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communication_protocol were developed and their [network performance] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_performance were evaluated by use of [stochastic] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stochastic [system level simulation] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System-level_simulation. The simulation technique applied, e.g., for Vehicle-to-Infrastructure (V2I) communication https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle-to-everything analysis is described in [Carl-Herbert Rokitansky, Christian Wietfeld, Christian Plenge: SIMCO3++: SImulation of Mobile COmmunications based on Realistic Mobility Models and Road Traffic Scenarios. In Proceeding IMACS 1994, 795–801, Vienna, Austri, 02/1994] http://www.comnets.rwth-aachen.de/downloads/publications/RoWiPl_IMACS94_01.pdf.

A concise description of the protocols developed in PRO-COM and their relative network performance is contained in [Christian Plenge: The Performance of Medium Access Protocols for Inter-Vehicle Communication Systems. In 2. ITG-Fachtagung Mobile Kommunikation '95, Neu Ulm, Germany, Sept. 1995, VDE-Verlag, 189-197] http://www.comnets.rwth-aachen.de/downloads/publications/Plenge_1995_performance_of_medium.pdf. Among these is the [DCAP protocol] [Bernhard Walke, Wei Zhu, Thomas Hellmich: DCAP: A Decentral Channel Access Protocol: Performance Analysis, In Proceedings 41st IEEE Vehicular Technology Conf., 463–467, St. Louis, Missouri, USA, May 1991] http://www.comnets.rwth-aachen.de/downloads/publications/1991ZhuHeWadcap.pdf. This protocol is in large part a template for [4G] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G [LTE Advanced] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LTE_Advanced protocol LTE-Vehicular, currently standardized as "side link (mode 4)" [3GPP,“Architecture enhancements for V2X services (v14.3.0, Release 14),” 3GPP, Tech. Rep. 23.285, June 2017] for V2V communication, see also [Rafael Molina-Masegosa and Javier Gozalvez: A New 5G Technology for Short-Range Vehicle-to-Everything Communications, IEEE Vehicular Technology Magazine, December 2017, 30-39]."

Reference not found
The reference "Board Member Meeting Event Guide. PROMETHEUS. 1994." leads to nothing. I could not find any trace of the guide in question online, so is it still a suitable reference? 2001:620:417:21F0:1000:1234:5678:AF52 (talk) 07:52, 25 April 2022 (UTC)