Talk:Europe Street

European-oriented multiculturalism in China?

 * ''The idea is the same as Chinatown in the United States of America and Europe where Chinese culture is displayed in an area predominantly dominated by European cultures.

Really? Is the People's Republic also encouraging large-scale immigration by Europeans to actually make this something other than a Potemkin village? Are there European-language schools where the European residents of Europetown can "retain and celebrate" their cultures?? Did European immigratns get to choose the location of their insta-ethnic/cultural ghetto, and are they allowed outside of it at night? Is China planning to make this as widespread within China as Chiantowns are in the rest of the world? Maybe not now, but give it twenty years (if this world make it that far) and, with China at the top of the imperial heap, there will no doubt be greater numbers of non-Chinese immigrating to China to take advantage of the burgeoning economic opportunities that are supposed to be coming along (global warming, environmental collapse and various wars notwithstanding). BTW what's the name of the compound in Beijing where foreign diplomats, students and businesspeople were contained? Shouldn't it be listed here, too? It's one of those places formed by discriminatory/restrictive edicts of the very kind that previous versions of the Chinatown page falsely claimed were the norm in North America. Funny thing, that. Of course, the real "Europetowns" in China used to be Shanghai, Hangchow, HongKong and other "spheres of influence", all driven outin the course of the Chinese civil wars/revolution, and none have been compensated or restored to their former European population/flavour. Strange thing about double standards, huh?Skookum1 21:51, 14 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Come on. At the very least this shows a Chinese interest in European culture, and what's to stop it growing into something more real in future? As you said China will be much more engaged with the rest of the world as it continues to rise. Re your last point - if Bordeaux, for example, had been forcibly occupied by the Chinese in the 1800s, would you seriously expect the French to recognise any Chinese moral claim to the place after kicking them out? Moyabrit 21:55, 21 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Equivocation is equivocation; the Chinese propaganda intent is clear in recent edits (just removed) claiming that it is an "ethnic enclave" and that it "the idea is the same as a Chinatown in the United States". Those would only be true if white people were welcome to settle in China and build their own communities and did so because of their preference to live and work around each other; but if they did so in China - or in North America - they would be styled as racist and xenophobic.  Other than perhaps hired guides, there is no authentic European community in a "Europe Street" - they are poltiical showcases, or more like museums where white culture can be presented without any actual white people, or if white people are no display it is in teh manner of a zoo, rather than a Chinatown.  The foreign enclave in Beijing remains the diplomatic compound.  The lack of mention that Harbin had "Russian culture on display" because it was a Russian-ruled/dominated city was curiously absent, also.  And Harbin wasn't "forcibly" occupied, either, and not Shanghai or Hangchow either.....only HongKong was..meanwhile hte forcible occupation of Lhasa continues.....besides you're just equivocating, making up a what-if situation/comparison in order to excuse what is clearly a racist stereotyping of white poeple by Chinese officialdom.  A genuine Europe Street would seek European settlers and actual white people creating a cultural locus, and woudl be welcome in a "multicultural China" without being assigned by edict to display-only "Europe Streets".....it all smacks of a bad science fiction movie.....Skookum1 (talk) 13:33, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

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