Talk:European medieval architecture in North America

Grand Tour?
"A tour of these buildings constitutes a Grand Tour without crossing the Atlantic." This is a fatuous assertion, much like an ad for Busch Gardens' Bavaria. The House of Seven Gables in Salem Massachusetts and several other wholly vernacular East Anglian 17th-century structures in New England are essentially medieval, as is the reconstructed Plimoth Plantation and the street plan of Boston. These are points that have been made often enough in print. --Wetman 03:25, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Gothic or Gothic Revival?
Here are some buildings that possibly merit inclusion in the list. The criterion should be whether the design and construction methods are faitfull to to the gothic originals.

Modern themes in ornamentation, like those used in Cathedral of Saint John the Divine and Washington National Cathedral, do not exclude a building from the list. One must think like a medieval craftsman and adapt local and contemporary themes. -- Petri Krohn 03:49, 8 February 2006 (UTC)


 * St. Patrick's Cathedral, New York

Ungava Bay & Payne Lake

 * (I moved this text here from the article. -- Petri Krohn 04:20, 28 June 2006 (UTC))

There is much conjecture, championed by canadian author FARLEY MOWAT, that there were earlier european settlers in n. america near Ungava Bay in northern labrador and further inland at Payne Lake .These peoples were the last of a culture of seafairers that had dealings with the norsemen and were very weary of their dealings with them. Getting to the point of the structure, he found rock strutures in the formation of a foundation but was at a loss as to whom were the builders as no inuit or dorset native could explain there origins. The configuration was 20'x 50' not in a perfect rectangle. His surmisal after very intuitive and flawlessly analytical research was that these structures were the resting point seasonally for boats that were overturned and made into a defacto house. ie. a boat roofed house [which are seen all over the ORKNEY ISLANDS and northern mainland Scotland].MR.MOWAT calls these people ALBANS  their deep water skills would have them as the finest seamen on the planet.They were merchant mariners  and they were mainly hunting walrus, they were of great value for theirhides, tusks, and intestines for twine. Their boats were timber framed but the hulls were of WALRUS hide. Twined hide in multistrand to wrap the hull then full hides overlapped for the skin [hence the colloquiallism skin of a boat]. I could continue to refer to FARLEY MOWATS book THE FARFARERS and have all my knowledge with respect to this theory from this book. It is a very worthy read written by a bonifide naturally analytical historian.Farley Mowat is Canadian and has rececieved many awards.–—--Firstalban 17:26, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Gothic Survival
Currently the Gothic Survival page redirects here. I'm not sure it should, really it should be an article in it's own right to describe the continuity of some Gothic building traditions that extended, in some cases well into the C17 in such places as Oxford. See. I intend to change it after receiving comments here - can anyone cite any sources that might be useful for me in disambiguating the term to European medieval architecture in North America? ie. Is it called the Gothic Survival in the US?--Mcginnly | Natter 12:48, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

"Gothic Buildings" section: can someone explain it?
The Gothic buildings section has gone through a full cycle over the last week or so. It began as it is now, which is a section on buildings that are technically Gothic Revival (with the odd caveat of being "authentic techniques"). St. Luke's in Smithfield, Virginia was added, which is original-era Gothic (i.e. from the original Gothic period of design, long before the revival, albeit a late example of it from the 17th century, which as commented in the previous thread there were holdovers likewise in Europe). That then got deleted because it wasn't from the Medieval period, which I can accept, but then the buildings which aren't Gothic but Gothic Revival and likewise aren't medieval got restored. What's going on? And what is this article supposed to be then.Morgan Riley (talk) 02:00, 17 March 2014 (UTC)