Talk:European slave trade

If there is an Arab slave trade and an African slave trade
we need a European slave trade article or redirect. just like we have a big fat one on Arabs and Africans.--Halqh حَلَقَة הלכהሐላቃህ 13:10, 8 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I think Atlantic slave trade, or Transatlantic slave trade, is the better-known name, but European slave trade should be a redirect. — Malik Shabazz (Talk | contribs) 19:13, 10 July 2007 (UTC)


 * No sane person will ever search for the trade of African slaves to the new world under "European slave trade", so there's no reason to leave a redirect. What's more, Halqh's statement and his way of moving the AST article here makes it all too obvious that this a case of WP:POINT. I feel that leaving this page as a redirect (which shouldn't be done for resons below anyway) somehow would encourage such actions. Malc82 19:23, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Reason for CSD tag
(edit conflict) This page was created to make a WP:POINT. The term is not used anywhere to describe the Atlantic slave trade. The explanation given above is wrong because, for example, the Arab slave trade is called so because the slaves were transported to Arabia, not because the slavers were Arabs. The reason why it shouldn't be a redirect is that there were various slave trades in European history and a page about ancient and medieval European slave trades might make sense, so the title should be available. Malc82 19:17, 10 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't agree that the term "is not used anywhere" Google found nearly 18,000 uses, and the first 100 use the phrase synonymously with "Atlantic slave trade". — Malik Shabazz (Talk | contribs) 19:25, 10 July 2007 (UTC)


 * They don't. I only checked the first three hits. The first one (the WSU page) refers to European trading of African slaves, starting with the Trans-Saharan trade, so it doesn't use the term synonymous with the Atlantic slave trade. The second and third ghit I found (my hits are those:, they will differ from yours because I unluckily get German google by default) is an Irish book which uses the term to describe contemporary slavery (in its colloquial sense) within Europe. Malc82 19:34, 10 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry. You're right. Many of the hits mention trading and slaving with the coast of Africa, and while most of them refer to the Atlantic slave trade (the Atlantic being the ocean by which ships sailed between Europe and western Africa), they did not all refer to the Transatlantic slave trade that is the subject of the article. — Malik Shabazz (Talk | contribs) 19:54, 10 July 2007 (UTC)