Talk:Eurythmy/Archive 1

healing
The Eurythmic movements do have tremendous healing potentials due to their immediate relation to the life and birth giving processes and Beings sounds like taken from a antroposophy commercial. / Habj 02:47, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

or from true experience?

Answer from original Author: From true expierence. Eurythmy can not be commercialized, because as soon as one would want to do it for personal gain, financial or otherwise, one would not be able anymore to reach to the source of Eurythmy. As in any art the intention of the artist is interwoven with his crafts. And attempting to perform Eurythmy for personal gain will not result in Eurythmy, but in some weirdness thats neither nose nor toe.

As Schiller puts it in a poem: The artist describes to Zeus, the father of the world, how all people in the world have their lot and income because they rushed into mundane affairs quickly. While he, the artist, choose to rest with the godly father, and now finally coming to earth he finds all places taken and all jobs occupied. And he asks Zeus whether he can help him in this bitter situation. Zeus replies that he can do nothing for him on earth, but that he will always be welcome in the heavens at his side.

Copper rods
Why does Eurythmy use only rods made of copper in the movements? This is not mentioned in the article. Lumos3 22:31, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Sometimes wooden rods are used; copper warms quickly, however, and is considered therefore ideal. Hgilbert 23:26, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

About some vandalism in July 2006
I just reverted some vandalism; and I wanted to make a note here because there is some | controversy over the influence of Anthroposophy in Waldorf schools, and the vandalism edits that I saw made reference to Eurythmy in Waldorf. So, I'd like to invite the (anonymous) vandals to join this discussion (here in the discussion page, or on the Anthroposophy discussion page), to discuss their experiences with Anthroposophy and Eurythmy, rather than just vandalizing the main article with "I hated it in school, and it's gay". (see the article history for the exact quote). Vandals, please note, the Wikipedia community reverts your vandalism PDQ! But honest dialogue has a place here on the discussion page, and you're welcome to contribute. Sincerely, -Tzf 18:12, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Actually, I'd like to discuss this (although I'm not one of the vandals you invited here). In Waldorf, eurythmy is called anything but what it is - a spiritual exercise of Anthroposophy. It is called an "art form" or "dance class" or "a way of putting words into movement" - but it's association with Anthroposophy is rarely (if ever) described. How come? Pete K 23:21, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Um -- somebody please edit this, for the love of all things holy
This "sentence":

 It takes its character from the movement that arises out of the upright form of the human being, in which the cultivated feelings of the soul ray into space most strongly through the expressive movement of the arms, the legs and feet mediate the connection to the earth and differentiate the soul expression through the quality they give to the overall movement of the body through space, while the head mediates the human connection to the heavens in a more reflective way.

needs some pretty massive overhauling. I'd do it except I have no idea what any of this is supposed to mean.

Anybody? Please?

Sugarbat 17:00, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Needs sources: violation of arbitration regarding anthroposophy-related articles
Two of three of this article's references are to anthroposophical sources. It is in violation of the arbitration rulings concerning anthroposophy-related articles and has been so for months. If adequate, non-anthroposophical sources are not cited in the next week or so, I will propose it for deletion.DianaW 03:39, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

A. sources are permitted for non-controversial aspects of a subject. Hgilbert 11:31, 2 July 2007 (UTC)


 * The arbitration was back in January and applied to the entire "family" of Steiner/Waldorf/anthroposophy articles on wikipedia. Fred Bauder was clear that the basic problem is using only or mainly anthroposophical sources to "document" that anthroposophy is the greatest thing since sliced bread. There are a couple dozen such articles that are exactly that - little mini-brochures that function to suggest anthroposophy does so many wonderful things for mankind. Like I say, the arbitration was in January, and it is clearly quite all right with the anthropsophists who have written all these articles that they sit forever and ever like this if no one hollers. I'm saying, either get to work fixing them or they should be deleted. Wikipedia isn't free advertising.DianaW 12:12, 2 July 2007 (UTC)


 * A quick glance at the content of this article shows that is utterly preposterous. Four months ago an outside, objective commentator stopped in and expressed incredulity at the content of this article. No one lifted a finger. You either need to fix it, or it should be deleted. It is not a wikipedia quality article. If you don't have time to upgrade the dozens of articles you started, you should graciously agree to delete them until you have time to write them properly.DianaW 12:16, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

The article has been extensively edited over the last four months. I have also added more references. Are there particular areas of concern? Hgilbert 00:32, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

eurythmy vs Eurythmy
Why in the main article Eurythmy is generally written with lower case first letter, in the discussion here with uppercase? For me this is really inconsistent. I would always write Eurythmy since for me it is a proper name. --Gkln (talk) 13:51, 5 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Good question. Some thoughts: By analogy with ballet, lower case seems appropriate. "Eurythmy" is less of a trade-mark, like Coca-Cola, and more of a movement art, like flamenco. HGilbert (talk) 15:49, 5 December 2013 (UTC)


 * I was interested how this problem is handled for Anthroposophy. In most cases "anthroposopy" is written with lower case letters, but sometimes also uppercase, all on the same page. Is this now a mistake that should be corrected or is everybody free how to spell such terms in a publication? --Gkln (talk) 12:47, 6 December 2013 (UTC)


 * I don't see anywhere where the word anthroposophy is capitalized on the Anthroposophy page other than as the first word of a sentence. The Anthroposophical Society, however, is clearly a proper noun (name of an organization) and should be capitalized. HGilbert (talk) 13:31, 6 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Sorry for you that you could not see the word Anthroposophy is capitalized apart from the beginning of a sentence. May I direct your attention to the following sentences as three examples as seen on 2013-12-07 on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthroposophy:
 * According to Anthroposophy, moral development reveals the extent to which one has achieved control over one's inner life and can exercise it in harmony with the spiritual life of other people; ...
 * Christian and Jewish mystical thought have also influenced the development of Anthroposophy
 * In his later life, Steiner was accused by the Nazis of being a Jew, and Adolf Hitler labelled Anthroposophy "Jewish methods." --Gkln (talk) 17:58, 7 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks; I've fixed these. HGilbert (talk) 01:32, 8 December 2013 (UTC)