Talk:Eustathius of Thessalonica

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Aldux, moving a article immediately after it's been created and without any discussion is both rude and extremely dogmatic. If you have a personal axe to grind about translating all Greek names into an irrelevant language (Latin), that's up to you, and I have neither the time nor inclination to stop you. But for the sake of posterity the following points are worth making:

Petrouchka 21:03, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
 * This guy didn't come from Thessaloniki, he came from Constantinople.
 * What has been done to all the names on this page is translation, into Latin; it is not transliteration. If you want to be picky about transliteration, then "Evstathio of Thessaloniki" would have been a better choice.
 * Making people's names "aesthetically better" does not seem to me a desirable goal in distributing information to the world.
 * Using the more common version of a name is certainly an important consideration, but (a) I think it would be better to exercise this rule in accordance with common sense, rather than 19th-century habits; (b) that's what redirect pages are for.
 * Look Petrouchka, I'm really sorry I've offended you. It's only that al least in Italian (my language) he is always called "Eustazio di Tessalonica", (i.e. Eustathius of Thessalonica) even if he wasn't born in the city. Also it's, simply that it has always been common to latinize Greek names in English, and still is the most common habit among scholars. Also, I have an antipathy for redirects, and wikipedia almost universally uses latinized names. But if you want I'll revert everything and also redo the article name and the redirects. You only have to ask. Aldux 22:56, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

I've added a reference to his reading of Athenaeus, from whose work he quotes very extensively. I'm surprised that the work on the capture of Thessalonica is not listed as a 'major work' -- I'm tempted to change that. Andrew Dalby 22:01, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Michael Psellos
How could Psellos have written about Eustathius, if Eustathius lived a century later? Adam Bishop 01:46, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Pass Andrew Dalby 08:49, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I take it the mistake originated in Britannica 1911: if so, an unusual error for them to make. The work cited (Glossar.) doesn't seem to be listed at Michael Psellus and no such work is on the TLG CD-ROM of Greek texts so far as I can find. Anyway, clearly the clause cannot be accurate, so I'll take it out. Andrew Dalby 09:04, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Editions of Eustathius' Commentaries
The article currently says that Eustathius' comentaries on the Iliad were "edited by J. G. Stallbaum for the Patrologia Graeca, 1827-1829". There is a confusion here. Migne's Patrologia Graeca didn't start until the 1850's (or 1840's if you count the "latine edita" volumes). Stallbaum's edition of the Iliad commentaries is only a continuation of the Odyssey volumes, all printed by J.A.G. Weigel.

Migne's Patrologia didn't include the Homeric commentaries. In volume 135 it has some orations, epistles, and the treatise "De emendanda vita monachica"; in volume 136 it includes the Capture of Thessalonika, the prologue to Pindar, and other minor writings.

Another old edition of Eustathius' works is Bekker's Corpus Scriptorum Historiae Byzantinae, which in the volume dedicated to Leo Grammaticus appends the Capture of Thessaloniki.

Finally, M. van der Valk's modern edition includes only the Iliad, not the Odyssey commentaries (plus a volume of Indices by H.M. Keizer, ISBN 9789004103276). The article is not clear in this regard.

Maybe someone more knowledgeable could put some order here?

Tirachinas (talk) 18:55, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

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