Talk:Eva Cassidy/Archive 1

In keeping with the 'pedia's policy of giving no credits I've made no mention of this in the main article, but I'd still like to express my thanks to Laura Bligh (Eva Cassidy's cousin) for proof-reading this article and making some valuable contributions and corrections. - Manning

Cancer Research UK
Eva Cassidy's cover of Fields of Gold was used fairly recently in a series of adverts for Cancer Research UK. Is it worth mentioning the fact in the article? GeeJo (t) (c) 21:54, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
 * I think so --Rogerd 22:19, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Actually, after a quick look around I found this. Seems the music gets a pretty large number of TV spots. GeeJo (t) (c) 22:53, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

The information supplied regarding EVa Cassidy's posthumous success is incorrect. Tupac Shakur has far surpassed Eva's posthumous record sales through the release of 11 albums since his death in 96, too.195.194.74.34 11:26, 27 January 2006 (UTC) alchemist

Regarding Eva vs Tupac....
The unusual aspect of Eva Cassidy's posthumous success is that she was not a well-known artist prior to her death. There obviously have been many performers whose albums made the charts after they died, including Tupac. 66.44.55.88 21:07, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

addition of unreferenced and advert tags
An ahttp://en.wikipedia.org/skins-1.5/common/images/button_italic.png Italic textnonymous editor has added the and tags with the following edit summary:
 * The article does not cite it's sources of this information. Also, the style of writing makes it seem like a magazine or newspaper article rather than an encyclopedia entry, with short paragraphs etc.

Please use this talk page to discuss improvements to the article. --rogerd 11:10, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

It seems to me the article does give it sources though not ncessarily that completely ie should give date as well as journal if possibl. They do however read like adverts, especially one from what seems like a "fan site". perhaps concerning music taste and point of view is unavoidable JDNoble

I added the tags --Obeattie 17:11, 2 July 2006 (UTC)


 * There's a cites query on the statement that Eva gained 'considerable praise' (note it doesn't say that she rocked the world - just 'considerable praise') for her work with Stonehenge. I know this is an encyclopaedia, and I know everything is supposed to be accurate and supported, but for one of the least self-obsessed singers there've been, can't we give her this one on goodwill?  - Shrivenzale 13:25, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Since no-one's rushed to defend the need for this tag I've removed it. - Shrivenzale 22:54, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Quotes section
The quotes may be sourced, but they are definitely cruft. This is not an advertisement, it is an encyclopedia. The quotes most definitely don't belong in the article. I'm not going to revert them again, because it will violate 3RR, but they should be removed by someone else. Ckessler 20:43, 15 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Please explain the word "cruft." Are you contending that POV is not allowed in articles? Wikipedia is precisely about presenting POV. If controversial, then opposing POV is also allowed. They just need to be sourced. -- Fyslee 20:47, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Blues Alley article
in the article for Blues Alley i added a small part mentioning eva singing there, as she wasnt mentioned. im quite new to wikipedia and dont know much about eva but could someone please check it out and make sure its ok, thanksDaniel625 03:06, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

relevance
I have removed the following text:
 * In (2007), on Britian's Got Talent], [[Conny Talbot, 6, sang Eva's version of Over the Rainbow and the judges were blown away. One of the Judges cried and Simon loved here. He said Conny your threw to the next round. We will have to see what becomes of Conny

I am not quite sure whether this is at all relevant to Eva Cassidy and the language is not great either... Kimelinor 19:43, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Quality
I wish someone could make this article more like the quality of articles like Barry White, Tupac Shakur and 50 Cent for example. Jørgen88 17:06, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Labels
user:Egghead06 re-added the dramatico label from the infobox after I removed it. The only thing Dramatico released was a duet single with Katie Melua 11 years after Eva's death. I think it's a stretch to call dramatico her record label. And dramatico is already mentioned in the discography section for the single. Re: the flag icons being cruft, I don't see it. Certainly cleaner than what was done previously to distinguish the european and uk labels from the us labels.--165.21.154.88 (talk) 01:00, 22 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Firstly the flags.I personally like them but.....there are those who seem to make it their lives work to remove them based on WP:FLAG. Put them in or leave them out, but if you leave them be prepared for the over zealous anti-flag brigade!
 * Her recording labels. To describe her Number 1 single with Katie Melua as 'the only thing' is not really giving this recording its due. But whatever your view of this effort you will find an Eva Cassidy recoding on Dramatico so it is one of her labels as is Brunswick for the UK issue of 'No Boundaries'. --Egghead06 (talk) 12:29, 22 February 2008 (UTC)


 * It has nothing to do with the quality of the music. A label that represents you is not the same as a label that you(or your rights holder) authorized to release a remix. Anyway, I'll leave it till someone else weighs in on it.--165.21.154.93 (talk) 15:38, 22 February 2008 (UTC)


 * You might like to read the article for The Beatles where every label is listed including one which only lasted for 9 months!! Think you'll find the listing of labels has nothing to do with the notion of the label that represents you--Egghead06 (talk) 16:11, 22 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, 9 months is certainly a short time when compared how long dramatico represented Eva. You might like to read Template:Infobox_Musical_artist where they state that the label field should be "the record label or labels to which the act has been signed". But hey, Template:Infobox Musical artist is not policy.--165.21.154.92 (talk) 17:08, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Criticism
There was a negative review from Sidney Morning Herald added to the external link. I'm not sure how to work it into the article without giving it undue weight. Help! --165.21.154.88 (talk) 10:02, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Lawsuits documents

 * Hugh Cassidy, et al. v. David Lourim, et al.
 * WILLIAM R. STRAW et al., v. ALLEN GELBARD et al.,
 * Blix Street Records v. Gelbard - Blix Street Sues Eva Cassidy Parents —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.21.154.91 (talk) 22:12, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Good Article nomination
I"m passing, as it fits all the Ga criteria. Some thoughts about continuing: some more references couldn't hurt if you dig them up. Also, watch your use of commas: occasionally there are a few thrown in a sentence when they're not needed. Finally, maybe Tributes and In popular media could be combined into a single paragraph form section? Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk  ) 12:30, 5 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Yay. Thanks.--165.21.154.90 (talk) 02:28, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Minor quibble - in the first sentence it talks about Eva's "reinterpretations". Please change that to just plain old "interpretations". "reinterpretation" is kind of an oxymoron. An interpretation is already a personal version of something that someone else has already done. A reinterpretation would I suppose be your second or third attempt to interpret something, or perhaps you are interpreting someone elses interpretation? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.69.35.203 (talk) 05:34, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Done. Thanks.--165.21.155.117 (talk) 10:53, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Rearrangment of text
I made some changes so that the text flows better, but I'm not sure if it is actually an improvement. Any feedback would be welcome. 165.21.154.90 (talk) 08:39, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) moved book info into popular media section.
 * 2) moved Michelle Kwan info into popular media section.
 * 3) merge tribute with popular media section
 * 4) moved Melua charity single into popular media
 * 5) moved future film into popular media.

Description of music sample
Just noting that the description of the sample is taken from a Yahoo Group discussion quoted here. I don't think it falls under WP:OR as it's a factual description rather than an original analysis.--Dodo bird (talk) 11:58, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Plagiarism by online magazine
An article in femalefirst magazine plagiarises heavily from this article. I left a comment one week back pointing out the same but it was not published. Sent another comment to them using their contact us form yesterday. Still waiting for reply. --Dodo bird (talk) 04:12, 20 August 2008 (UTC)