Talk:Evansville, Indiana

2020 Census
Can someone please update the information to reflect the 2020 census? https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/evansvillecityindiana that's the link. This article is too big to the point I don't have the time or am confident enough I can do it without messing up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NXNiTe (talk • contribs) 21:12, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

New Downtown Image Needed
There have been many changes in the downtown area since 2008. Rhatsa26X (talk) 21:57, 25 August 2014 (CDT)

Montage Needed
Evansville and South Bend both now need montages now that Indianapolis and Fort Wayne have theirs. Rhatsa26X (talk) 19:21, 30 July 2013 (CDT)

I tried but an outsider debuffed my efforts Rhatsa26X (talk) 16:06, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

Split Proposal - Media
I have updated television stations and put them in a table. I summarized radio stations. Radio formats change relatively frequently, so I only listed the station numbers and call letters, leaving out formats and advertising slogans. Have a look, see if it needs further work (I believe the radio stations may), and if its good, we can update this talk page section. (2-21-14)

I am making this proposal for the same reason. Also the list doesn't even cover the radio market or much of anything else related to the media outlets in the metropolitan area. Rhatsa26X (talk) 21:45, 07 August 2010 (CDT)
 * Support. Seems like a good idea, considering the individual television stations are being listed and radio stations are clearly begging to be noticed without a complete list. Let me know if this gets done and I can help out with listing radio stations-- I seem to cover the full dial on my car stereo at least a few times a month and wouldn't mind even checking to make sure stations still air on said frequencies.
 * Off the top of my head--
 * FM stations include (but are not limited to):
 * 88.3 WNIN - NPR/BBC News - talk shows - classical - bluegrass - Irish folk
 * 89.1 "The Bash" - classic rock - alternative
 * 89.5 - classical - bluegrass?
 * 90.5 -
 * 91.5 WUEV - classical - jazz - alternative
 * 93.5 WOLF - pop country
 * 95.3 K-LOVE - pop contemporary Christian
 * 96.1 - pop R&B - pop rock
 * 97.1 -
 * 99.5 - classic country
 * 101.5 - talk shows - Christian
 * 103.1 WGBF - alternative - hard rock
 * 104.1 WIKY - adult alternative (80s thru pop)
 * 105.3 WYNG "Superhits" - oldies (50s thru 70s)
 * 106.1 KISS - pop R&B - pop rock
 * 107.1 -
 * I don't listen much to AM radio, but I can do some dial-surfing there, too. Bob the Wikipedian (talk • contribs) 23:03, 8 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Media in Evansville, Indiana is a viable sub-article proposal, though I don't see that there is a need to split out at the moment per WP:WHENSPLIT. The media section consists of two and half small paragraphs followed by a short list of TV stations. Perhaps the section has changed since this split was first proposed? I'm not sure what the sub-sub-section, "Counties in the Media Market", is about or how helpful that is to the general reader. What is the argument for a split?  SilkTork   ✔Tea time  18:16, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

2010 census
Reference, please? A link would be good. I've seen the edited i just reverted has been made over again, and once again without pointing to the reference. I can't seem to find the 2010 Census data, otherwise I'd add the reference myself. Bob the WikipediaN (talk • contribs) March 2011

Scope
I think it's a stretch to say the University of Southern Indiana does not call Evansville its home. It may be a mile from the city limits, but the postal address says Evansville, and I've never seen any literature suggest otherwise except the latest version of this Wikipedia article. Bob the WikipediaN (talk • contribs) 00:14, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

History and other updates
I added a brief history for all periods of Evansville's history. The precious section was very selective, incomplete, uncited and opinionated in areas, and did not make sense. Some areas of history were highlighted as if they are important, other areas were completely overlooked or disregarded as if they are insignificant. I realize there is another page for history. The other page, in my opinion, should be used for a detailed history of Evansville. The history I have provided only gives a brief sentence or two, along with relevant photos, of each significant area of Evansville'a history. Prehistoric. Native Americans. Acquisition of the land from the Delaware. Early pioneer days. Evansville's boom during the Erie Canal, Railroad and furniture manufacturing eras, the war, post war, the later half of the 20th century and the modern era. This is not too much information, in my opinion. I have only provided a couple brief sentences, or at most, a paragraph, on each of those eras. More information on each of those eras would certainly be nice to have on the History of Evansville page, but the brief synopsis on the main page does not seem unwarranted to me.

Otherwise, i see no point in having such a brief and incomplete history synopsis on the main page at all. If such a brief, selective, opinionated and incomplete history is the idea, then we should not have a section on history at all, in my opinion. If a brief and selective historical synopsis is the objective, then the entire section should be deleted and directed to a separate page.

Besides history, i have made dozens of improvements all over. YHuoshu has deleted all improvements with the knee jerk reaction to undo all of my work.

My intention is to make updates throughout the page and provide a complete, encyclopedic snapshot of Evansville; not to simply choose a couple items and pass that off as a description of our city. I have taken the time to provide a comprehensive view of Evansville. If YHoushu does not agree with my portrayal of the city, the time could at least be taken to read what I actually added and to select what is not considered appropriate without discarding all of my work with one broad stroke.

jstuck21677 2/21/14
 * These updates are too detailed here and clutter up the page. There is a page dedicated to the history of the city and that is where the updates belong.--YHoshua (talk) 04:46, 22 February 2014 (UTC)


 * That is all you have to say? "There is too much information in the encyclopedia" is your issue?  And what of the corrections I have made to the everything that wasn't true?  "The area was first settled by mound builders".  Not true.  "Five NYSE headquarters are located in Evansville".  Not true.  (Mead Johnson is not headquartered here.  They don't claim Evansville as their home, why should wikipedia say that it is?  Do you work for Mead Johnson?  Is that what this is about?)  You leave only one picture of Robert Evans and nothing else.  Its too cluttered and detailed to provide more than one picture that actually illustrates Evansville?  If we put 50 Evansvillians in a room, how many of them do expect could identify Robert Evans face?  Robert Evans has little significance.  I bet you they know what a P47 Thunderbolt looks like, though.  I bet you they know what an LST looks like.  We name one of our high schools after President Harrison.  Is it too much detail and clutter to actually mention him and provide a photo?  An 1890 map of Evansville and a few photos of the late 19th and early 20th centuries are a lot more interesting than a picture of Bob Evans.


 * Your history of Evansville uses up the space to talk about Twelfth Night, but a couple of sentences telling about how Harrison acquired the land from the Delaware is too detailed? Your history ends in 1995 with the arrival of the Tropicana Casino, but one paragraph on the Great Recession's impact on Evansville is too much information?


 * You want to give 13 companies free advertisement for being in Evansville (4 of which aren't even located in Evansville at all - not even in the county), but you don't want to talk about the other 14 employers that I identified as major contributors to the Evansville economy because that is too detailed? Are you a competitor of Red Spot or Ameriqual?  Is that why you don't want to include them when discussing the economy?  Or would you just rather it all be about Mead Johnson (who isn't even headquartered here, though you insist on saying they are) and the Tropicana Casino?


 * Its too much detail to talk about the history of Evansville in the history section, but when we're talking about the economy in the Economy section, you want to talk about Evansville's history? That makes sense?  Evansville is not "the refrigerator capital of the world" anymore.  History is history, and economy is economy.  If you want to cut out details, lets cut out the details that are not relevant to the topic.


 * I take the time to actually alphabetize entertainment venues and provide a photo of each, but that's too detailed and cluttered so you delete the organization?


 * I remove Mesker Amphitheatre, which you describe as an 8500 seat venue for outdoor concerts and special events when the truth is the place has been closed, abandoned and turned into a dump site? You want to keep that, but talking about how Mesker Park Zoo is somehow famous for being mentioned in a 1955 novel that nobody's heard of isn't too much detail and clutter?


 * The improvements I have made are two much clutter, but you insist on claiming Evansville to have two flat track teams, when in fact we only have one? That is the spirit of Wikipedia?  To provide as much false information as we can?


 * I know I have made a lot of improvements to this site, but I'm sorry. Nobody else was doing it.  The historical information I added is small, though it is relevant and it is more accurate that saying, "Evansville started 10,000 years ago.  They built some mounds.  Then settlers moved in.  We built some LSTs and some planes, and then we made some refrigerators.  The end."
 * The historical additions I have made are small, but they are relevant to the story of Evansville, and they are not too much. If you think it is too much, we should just delete the entire section and say, "Go to the History of Evansville" page.  But if we're going to do that, we might as well create an "Economy of Evansville" page, delete all the information we have there, and send them on their way.  We can really shorten this thing up if we send everybody to a separate page for each section.  But that's not the spirit of encyclopedia.  If we're going to have a page providing History, provide a BRIEF history.  I didn't get detailed.  I didn't bore anyone with long stories about specific events.  I wrote a brief synopsis on each major period of the region, and then I moved on to the next major period.  I didn't subjectively pick and choose which pieces of history I thought were important.  I touched on every period with a sentence or two.
 * If you want to provide more information than a sentence or two, do it on a new page. But don't make the claim that mound builders were the first people to inhabit the area when it is simply not true.


 * Most of the improvements I have made are of a slight nature. I corrected the fallacy that we have an 8500 seat amphitheater on the West Side.  That is not true.
 * I corrected the fallacy that we have two flat track teams. That is not true.
 * I corrected the fallacy that the area's first inhabitants were mound builders. That is not true.
 * I removed a lot links that are not necessary. We don't have to link to The Ohio River a dozen times in the same article.  Once is enough.  We don't have to mention Mead Johnson and the Tropicana Casino throughout the article.  Once, or maybe even twice, is enough.  We don't have to make 3 different references to the Tropicana.  This page is not a casino commercial.


 * I moved information around to make it flow better. I put history where history belongs and I put economy where economy belongs.  I added photos, which actually provide an encyclopedic visual reference for visitors to actually see what is being talked about, and I provided citations to random facts that were not cited.
 * I moved photos around so they actually line up next to the corresponding text.


 * These are the "hundreds" of changes you claim that I made. They're improvements.  I took out the lies.  I added facts.  Nobody else has taken the time to address it.


 * Yes, I probably broke the three-revert rule, which I didn't even know was a rule until today, but I did nothing more than correct the errors and ommissions, and add links to uncited material that no one else had taken the time to do.


 * I am sorry if you do not like the work I have done, but blindly deleting all of it is completely counterproductive. If you don't like the work I have provided, please make a contribution of your own.  This page has been written in error and has provided misinformation about Evansville for years.  I fixed those issues.  You have not done anything to fix them yourself.  Deleting every improvement that I have made does not help the page.  With your quick, blind swoop to undo everything, you are stubbornly making the page worse.  The page I have up here is full of fact and truth.  The page you keep reverting it to is full of misinformation and lies.


 * If you don't like the way I've portrayed something, by all means, improve it. But don't delete everything just because you think it is too much information for an encyclopedia to contain.

Jstuck21677 (talk) 03:21, 26 February 2014 (UTC)jstuck21677

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Klu Klux Klan
History section probably deserves a bit about the KKK, given its predominance in the city in its (specifically Indiana Klan's heyday. natemup (talk) 16:03, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

2022 house explosion
This news story doesn't belong in 'history' as it's not a city defining news story. It made world news ONLY because there was a video. It is a tragedy, but not one that will reshape the culture of the city. This is a fairly small news story, nothing more.

If you want further support of the argument, we had a PLANE CRASH INTO A RESTAURANT AND KILL SEVERAL PEOPLE, but that news story is nowhere to be found in the history section. One event that Evansville did gain some fame for was the loss of our UE basketball team in a plane crash: The Night it Rained Tears, and again, that's not on history section of the wiki.

This is not 'history' it is news. 174.101.9.184 (talk) 13:12, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Agree: this belongs in neither the main Evansville article, nor in the article about the city's history.--IndyNotes (talk) 13:20, 17 October 2022 (UTC)