Talk:Evie Hudak

WP:DOB needs a source
has disruptively removed it several times. Per WP:BURDEN, the burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and it is satisfied by providing an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution. Toddst1 (talk) 04:18, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Dude you are being ridiculous. Reference #2 is what gives her date of birth. The lead is a summarization of the article and should usually not have references within it. Jon698 (talk) 04:22, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
 * While that source supports the DOB, the citation needs to be at the date of birth - as well as other sentences it supports. Putting the citation elsewhere is not citing the DOB and removing the direct citation is nothing short of disruptive. Toddst1 (talk) 04:29, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Popular and commonly edited articles such as Joe Biden and Donald Trump do not have citations for the date of birth in the lead. It is also unnecessary to have a ref name for the first sentence as the reference itself is after the very next sentence. All information before a reference must be cited in that reference so it is not "removing a direct citation" as you claim for some reason. Jon698 (talk) 04:34, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Put it the citation in the lede or the body - WP:LEDECITE allows both but as you left it, the DOB is NOT cited. Toddst1 (talk) 04:51, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
 * There is already a reference for it in the body. The date of birth is cited by reference #2. Jon698 (talk) 04:56, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
 * No, her marriage is supported by #2. The source could (and did) support her DOB invoking the WP:REFNAME, but it has been removed from that sentence. Per WP:CITEFOOT
 * And per WP:WHYCITE:
 * not encouraged to remove them when having the citation invoked twice would be unambiguous. Toddst1 (talk) 05:05, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Multiple sentences, even those containing the date of birth, can be sourced by the same reference in the style that I did. You can see Ronald Reagan, a FA, for example or hundreds of other biographies. I am done arguing with you. Jon698 (talk) 05:12, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Please explain how you believe removing the reliably sourced citation from the sentences and/or infobox where her date of birth is stated is constructive.  Toddst1 (talk) 05:28, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Multiple sentences, even those containing the date of birth, can be sourced by the same reference in the style that I did. You can see Ronald Reagan, a FA, for example or hundreds of other biographies. I am done arguing with you. Jon698 (talk) 05:12, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Please explain how you believe removing the reliably sourced citation from the sentences and/or infobox where her date of birth is stated is constructive.  Toddst1 (talk) 05:28, 18 May 2022 (UTC)