Talk:Evolution of Worcestershire county boundaries since 1844

Title
I have moved the article to fix the capitalisation problem per WP:CAPS, but think a better title would be Evolution of Worcestershire county boundaries per WP:NOUN. I will move it to this if there are no objections. Ground Zero | t 07:44, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Enclave/exclaves
Why do Feckenham, Kington and Church Lench appear in the table, when they are and always were in Worcestershire? I have also made some adjustmetns to the text relating to the northern boundary, but am uncertain whether this is supported by the referneces which are cited. If not, the sources are incorrect. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:46, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Dudley
I have reverted the change of Dudley leaving Worcestershire in 1974, back to it leaving in 1966 (adding an explanation). As a County Borough, the council fulfilled all local government functions. Accordingly, the county in which it lay was almost a semantic question. One area where it continued to matter was the execution of High Court writs, which were the responsibility of the sheriff, though undertaken by officers working for the under-sheriff. Under the 1966 arrangements, the urban district of Ambelcote was split between Stourbridge and the new County Borough. The shirevalty boundaries were altered to conform, so that the part of Amblecote that was in Stourbridge was dealt with by the under-sheriff at Worcester and the part added to Dudley (with the rest of the County Borough) was dealt with by the under-sheriff at Stafford. This boundary continued to apply after 1974. I know this as in the late 1970s and early 1980s, as a solicitor, one had to know which under-sheriff to send writs to. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:02, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Lead
Thus culminating with the creation of the West Midlands County and Worcestershire's brief merger with Herefordshire.[2]

In the true sense of the word culminate the culmination would have been the separation  back into the  two traditional  counties (when all  of us on  both  sides of the hills breathed a huge sigh  of relief). --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 11:11, 29 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes, I see your point there...I'll look at a way of rewording it. Thanks Bellow558 (talk) 11:39, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I admire your courage with  this history  of Worcs and sincerely  hope that  the article will become a GA. I'm sure it  will, but believe me, anyone who  has been subject  to  those county boundary  changes over just  the last  60 or so years as I  have, is confused. UK governments, like no other Western European country, are obsessed with  constantly  changing  local  government boundaries and municipal  status. It's usually  due to successive governments trying to engineer the areas of population in  order to create safe seats in regions of piebald pockets of heavy industry  (left wing such as north Worcs), and extremely agricultural (right wing) such as the Vale of Evesham, West Worcs, athe vast  p[astoral tracts of the Malvern Hills and the whole of Herefordshire.  What  would help  of course would be an animated gif of the boundary  vhanges, but  it's not  mandatory  for a Wikipedia article., althoigh  a horizontal  timeline may  help  reduce some of tghe confusion.
 * I've noticed that some of your phraseology is slightly  repetitive at times, which often happens in long articles. When the review is almost finished, I'll  give it a final CE for style. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 06:56, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Copy editing
I've made a few minor changes that improve the syntax and flow without  altering  any  of the actual content. I've done this as a series of short diffs so  that  it  is easier for you  to  revert if you  don't  appoprove of them. Not quite finished yet. (Don't worry -  I  won't  be taking  any  credit at  all, shared or otherwise,  for the GA when it  passes). --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 06:59, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for all your assistance! Bellow558 (talk) 10:36, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

Renaming the article
Bellow558, congratulations on getting this article to GA -- you've done a huge amount of work and the article is very impressive. I suggest we move the article to "Evolution of Worcestershire county boundaries since 1844"; I think that's slightly more concise than "... boundaries (1844 - present)".

I've promoted the article to GA, but haven't placed it in the GA pages yet -- I'll wait to do that till we've agreed on the name. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 10:25, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

That is brilliant...thank you very much for all your work in assisting me getting the article to this level! :) Yes...I agree about the name change to "Evolution of Worcestershire county boundaries since 1844" Bellow558 (talk) 10:35, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Done. It's been a pleasure working with you -- I look forward to seeing more of your articles. Mike Christie (talk - contribs -  library) 11:18, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
 * No Problem Mike! Just one final question...In your opinion, how far is the article away from A-Class status? Just as a matter of interest. Thanks Bellow558 (talk) 14:08, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
 * A-class reviews are done by WikiProjects, so it would have to be from a WikiProject that has implemented an A-class review process, which most of them haven't. Only the most active projects, such as military history, have A-class reviews.  The next step would be to get the article to featured status.  I think there's more work to be done before you could get to that level -- it's not out of reach, but I don't think it's there yet.
 * What I'd suggest is that you work on a few more articles first -- see if you can get a few more to good article status; that process will give you a lot more experience and understanding of what it takes to improve an article. I would also suggest you review a couple of good article nominees, once you are confident you understand the criteria; reviewing an article is good practice for seeing what's wrong with your own articles.  You could also read through featured article candidate reviews (at WP:FAC) and good article reviews by others (at WP:GAN) on topics that interest you; that'll give you a sense of what reviewers are looking for.  Mike Christie (talk - contribs -  library) 23:12, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that Mike...food for thought for the future! Thanks again for all your assistance! Bellow558 (talk) 17:04, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

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