Talk:Evolution of timpani in the 18th and 19th centuries

comments
Nicely done. I suggest a couple of things here.
 * links to other articleds
 * 1) the standard on symphony names is Symphony No. (composer)  so to add a link, you'll need to add Symphony No. 8 Or whatever symphony you're linking to.
 * 2) You might also go to the page and see if there is a way to link back to your article.
 * citations
 * 1) there are none, except the "definition" I added earlier. Use Or use one of the citation templates, if you'd prefer.  You need a lot of citations in this, especially if you're going to say Beethoven's magnificent symphony (or whatever).
 * Orphan
 * 1) That means no other articles link to this. I've de-orphaned it a little bit, but you'll need to do more.  There is a link on the side that tells you what links to the article.
 * Copy edit
 * 1) Needs a copy edit, but the issues aren't flagrant.
 * Pictures
 * 1) Could use a picture in the lead.
 * 2) Could also use a few other kinds of pictures, perhaps showing how something is cored for timpani; or the mechanisms, or whatever. Use your imagination. You've done a nice job.  Auntieruth55 (talk)

A couple of suggestions
The article looks very good so far, good work (although I have no knowledge of the topic). A couple of suggestions for a higher rating (most of these are just cosmetic, so really only minor):


 * the images could have alt text added per WP:ALT (this is for sight impaired viewers);
 * the article could have a few more categories added to it at the bottom to improve traffic to and from (it currently only has one);
 * the quotation marks should be straight, rather than curly per WP:MOSQUOTE (this is a very minor thing, so don't be too concerned about it);
 * in terms of in line citations, the general rule for a B class article is that everything should be cited (rule of thumb is at least one in line citation per paragaph. So long as everythin in the paragraph came from the same source, the citation can just be added to the end of the paragraph. However, if multiple sources are used, its best to include more than one citation in the paragraph);
 * citations to the same source can be consolidated per WP:NAMEDREFS (this is sort of like using "ibid" in an academic paper);
 * page ranges should have endashes per WP:DASH
 * the section headings are incorrectly capitalised per WP:MOSHEAD. Only the first letter in the heading should be capitalised along with any proper nouns. For example "The First Foot Activated Tuning System" should be "The first foot activated tuning system".

Anyway, I hope this helps. Keep up the good work. Cheers. — AustralianRupert (talk) 00:43, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

a few tweaks and stuff
Nice work so far. I've shortened some of your cites because you don't need the entire cite every time. You might want to use an infobox like the one below. I've put it on the page, but you'll need to fill it out. See the caption for Hector Berlioz. I rewrote it to provide information, not just labeling the portrait, but why he is included. This should happen for all of your pictures. You've done it for the early ones, but not the portraits. The fact that it's Beethoven (or whomever) is irrelevant to an article on Timpani. the fact that Beethoven revolutionized the use of timpani in orchestral composition, and what he did, is important. Auntieruth55 (talk) 21:16, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

I've also added links back to the article from other articles, but you'll need to do more. If you click on the "what links here" line in the far right, it will give you a list. Basically, I've gone to the different symphonies and linked them back to this article, from where they talk about the revolutionary use of timpani. If you click on edit in those sections, you can see how I did that. Auntieruth55 (talk) 21:41, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

When you're done, open the peer review above by clicking on the proper subheading (probably it will be music ;) ), then add the reasons for listing as peer review and sign it with the tildas. Auntieruth55 (talk) 21:43, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Peer Review
Your article is very imformative and great for someone who knows a lot about the timpani as well as people who know nothing about the instrument. Some things to fix: I think the titles of all of your sections should only have the first word capitalized. Also, there are a lot of spots that should have apostrophes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Panzak7 (talk • contribs) 06:21, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

comments
this is looking better and better. Your info box is wonderful. I'm wondering if it would eventually be possible to include a sound byte...? You realize that this has the potential to be a featured article? Auntieruth55 (talk) 14:39, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The GA reviewer is within his authority to fail this, based on the lack of citations, but you can easily add them I'm sure. Ask Trod or one of your classmates for assistance in editing. I've marked the paragraphs that need citations.  If it's the same citation as already in there, just move it.  If not, add one.  There are still grammatical issues, and I agree that the Dresden timpani paragraph is long, could be broken in at least one place to make it more accessible. I would love to see a piece of score in this, as examples of changes, and perhaps a sound byte or two. As I said above, this article has a lot of potential. It just needs some more work.  Auntieruth55 (talk) 16:20, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

copy edit
timpguy, one of your colleagues from class copy-edited this, although it still needs some citations and clarification. 14:38, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

grammar and organization
Looks pretty good. I may scope out this page and try to cite anything with 'citation needed', and correct grammatical errors. Haydendp (talk) 14:32, 5 October 2018 (UTC)