Talk:Ex-pastors

Good morning,

Thanks for the welcome to Wikipedia.

I posted an ex-pastors article, and have now looked for the discussion pages about it, but I seem to have been too late.

It seems to have been suggested it was inappropriate under NOR rile, although it seems to me the data and iterature on ex-pastors is more extensive than my contribution, and I am only beginning to explore the issue - my post was a summary of my abckground reading which I cited.

I look forward to seeing an appropriate version and article of ex-pastors on Wikipedia

Darren Cronshaw 01:45, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi Laughing Vulcan. I've done a fairly drastic edit of this article to eliminate redundancies and 'wikify' it. I would keep the original title, as it's the normal wording in the literature. I've not touched the bibliography, which is quite excellent.

This whole area is important for churches around the world. Hopefully others will modify/add to the basic article to universalize it.

Can it now become an article, or does something else need to be done?

Ron Cameron 07:23, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Just finished touching it up: what else?

Ron Cameron 19:24, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Remaining Task Ideas

 * There are now wiki links in the text. Can that be improved upon?
 * Other articles to link to and from?
 * This article can really be expanded a lot. Despite the size of the references, it's still really a stub.

Note - I'm making this list as much for me as for anyone else to work towards. LauhgingVulcan 01:45, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Ron Cameron

Good suggestions.


 * Yes the category Clergy I'd say no to ordination (some evangelical groups which are included in this literature don't believe in 'ordination'. Also they'd prefer the term 'pastors' but clergy will do.


 * I'd opt for leaving the biblio longer than the article and put a note for further edits to add to the article proper. It's a very important field of study these days, and I think there'll be a lot of people interested to add material. It's quite a unique bibliography, actually.


 * 'Ex-pastors' is the best generic title for this topic.


 * I'll leave you guys to upload it into mainspace, and then I'll visit it regularly. I like the way we've communicated on this: thanks guys!

Ron Cameron 01:18, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Ron Cameron and Laughing Vulcan for working on my article on ex-pastors. I have just tried to join the conversation, and I hope (though I'm not sure) if this is the right way to do it by adding 'edit'. I look forward to seeing teh Wikified version.

Darren Cronshaw 01:57, 3 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Good to hear from you! Yes, this is indeed the place to join in the conversation, and welcome.  I dropped a note on Ron's page earlier today, letting him know that I might get some work done today, or it may have to wait a few days (my involvement, that is...)   Ron's convinced me that when it's ready, we should place it back into the mainspace under its' original title.  I'm also wondering, from another editor's suggestion, if we should have a couple of the editors who were in the opposite camp peer review it before we move it back.  (i.e. Ask them if they feel we've sufficiently addressed the concerns that were raised in the initial AfD.)  Any thoughts? LaughingVulcan 04:17, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

It's looking good: thanks for your excellent editing LV!

Ron Cameron 01:55, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks LV. ASking those who challenges it if it covers the bases sounds good. I'll be interested to se what they say., —Preceding unsigned comment added by Darren Cronshaw (talk • contribs) 04:11 (UTC), 10 June 2007

What's the latest on this Laughing Vulcan? Thanks for your good work on it. Ron Cameron 00:37, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi, Ron. I think we're ready to move it back.  I wanted to work on it some more to flesh it out a bit and add expand out with some Alban Institute stuff, but I don't think I'll get to that for awhile.  I'm also going to add something to the mainspace talk page about the prior deletion and rewriting - hopefully it will be enough to make it better.  I'm also going to {stub} it, as I really think it needs some more expansion at a future point in time.  Laughing Vulcan  00:52, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Rewritten
The article (as you may tell from the above comments) has been rewritten extensively. If this article is prodded or nommed at AfD, I would appreciate a notification on my talk page. Thank you. Laughing Vulcan 01:50, 16 June 2007 (UTC)