Talk:Ex hac augusta

Contradiction?
"The Austrian-Hungarian authorities wanted to diminish the dominance of the Franciscans, who were connected to the South Slavic national movements, ..." but yet "Austria-Hungary insisted on Franciscans taking pastoral care, with the introduction of secular clergy only when necessary." ??? Manannan67 (talk) 18:12, 5 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Well, in my understanding, the situation is very complex. Certain Franciscan authors like Berislav Gavranović and for that matter Srećko Džaja, support the pro-Franciscan theory that the Franciscans were somehow pro-Slavic anti-Austrian. The main contributor to this thesis is Gavranović, who wrote his capital work on the subject "Uspostava redovite katoličke hijerarhije u Bosni i Hercegovini 1881. godine" (1935) (the Establishment of the Regular Catholic Hierarchy in Bosnia and Herzegovina in 1881; I'm a proud owner of the first edition :) ). So, you can understand the context, Austria-Hungary was at war with the Kingdom of Serbia during World War I, and there were two conflicting concepts - Yugoslavism and Austroslavism. Gavranović is a graduate of Belgrade University and since Austria-Hungary collapsed and was replaced by the Kingdom of Yugoslavia, he tried to align the Franciscans with the new regime, presenting them as being persecuted by the Austrians. Later authors are aware of that, and some new documents became available (which were unavailable to Gavranović, so he cannot be blamed for bias, intended or not) which shed new light. Austrian-Hungarian authorities actually supported the Franciscans on many issues (see Paškal Buconjić). I'll need to work on the article to clarify the situation. --Governor Sheng (talk) 00:13, 8 December 2020 (UTC)