Talk:Express Yourself (Madonna song)/Archive 1

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Lyrics
Where do I put the lyrics? —Preceding unsigned comment added by MadonnaPenguin (talk • contribs) 23:41, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Nowhere. It would be a violation of copyright law and wikipedia policy to include them anywhere on this project. DMacks (talk) 15:44, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Then why isn't it a violation of copyright law for Lady Gaga to put the song on her own album? (See Born This Way (song).) --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 01:00, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Where does it say that Gaga put the song in the album? Did you even bother reading the section? It talks about similarities between "Express Yourself" and "Born This Way". — Legolas ( talk 2 me ) 05:56, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Then allow me to rephrase: Then why isn't it a violation of copyright law for Lady Gaga to put a song that is substantially similar to "Express Yourself" on her own album? --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 17:43, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Because it is not a proven fact that there were intentional copying of EY in BTW, and chord structure is not copyrighted. — Legolas ( talk 2 me ) 17:45, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Version
I notice there is a version which is different from Album, 7", The Immaculate Collection, and Celebration version. Does anyone know from which CD this version comes from? Thanks! -- TX55   TALK  09:27, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Glaring omission
Okay, it's pretty clear to me that this song borrows much more from the Staple Singers' Respect Yourself than from Otis Redding's Respect. The article about Respect Yourself mentions this at least, but it seems it should be mentioned here. I don't know how to source it, though; it just seems blatantly obvious to me, especially in the chorus. Have a listen:  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Schnitzi (talk • contribs) 11:40, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * This is already mentioned in the article. Read. — Legolas ( talk 2 me ) 11:09, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
 * No, there is no mention in the article of the obvious similarity to the Staple Singers' "Respect Yourself". The article metnions Redding's "Respect" but not the Staples' "Respect Yourself". - tSR - Nth Man (talk) 22:53, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

My personal opinion is that there is no similarity between Respect by Otis Redding or Respect Yourself by Staple Singers. I believe that the Otis Redding part should be removed and the Staple Singer reference should not be included. Facts need to be proven and sourced. Facts should only be in wikipedia articles otherwise it undermines the entire purpose of Wikipedia - personal opinions should remain and be discussed within forums. I shall remove the Otis Redding section until it is proven otherwise. Jizzaster — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jizzaster (talk • contribs) 10:06, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I dunno, when you listen to the Staples song and hers they are pretty much exact. Although without sources we cannot mention this. I did a google and I couldn't find any reference to it even though to the untrained ear they are copies. Mishka Shaw (talk) 15:48, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Staple Singers should be added! similair part : http://www.whosampled.com/sample/29786/Madonna-Express-Yourself-The-Staple-Singers-Respect-Yourself/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.117.152.58 (talk) 18:19, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid WhoSampled is not a reliable source, sorry. Please read this discussion at our Reliable sources noticeboard: Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 120. The Wikipedian Penguin 20:30, 3 September 2015 (UTC)


 * ok, some jury decided whosampled is NOT a reliable source, but check text here :
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Respect_Yourself — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.117.152.58 (talk) 11:28, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you. From the link you've given, I've found this source, The Dallas Morning News, and will implement it. IndianBio, if you want to do this, feel free, since you are more familiar with the article. The Wikipedian Penguin 01:57, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, that would be great!!

uk
This song was not the 20th best selling single of 1989 in the UK. It didn't even feature in the top 50 best sellers of that year. I know Youtube cannot be used as a source, but there is several clips of Mark Goodier reading the countdown for that year, which will confirm this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.144.81.40 (talk) 09:00, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Fixing citation problems
As part of User talk:Legolas2186/Fixing citation problems, I changed a Becky Johnston cite that was unverified in its earlier form, but could be traced to a May 1989 issue of Interview. I also deleted a chunk of text about the song in France which was supported by a citation authored by someone listed as Charlotte Rowsdoom, who apparently does not exist. I could not find her anywhere online except websites that were obviously mirroring this Wikipedia article. Binksternet (talk) 23:22, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

David Fincher

 * The Cinematic History of Madonna and David Fincher Vice

— Indian: BIO  [ ChitChat  ] 21:53, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

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Song's influence?
Are we sure that "Express Yourself" was solely influenced by or a tribute to Sly & The Family Stone? The song (in)directly refers to "Respect Yourself" by The Staples Singers. ("...respect yourself, hey hey hey hey.") Would someone else like to comment on this? Hummph. ;)

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