Talk:Extreme longevity tracking

Merge with Supercentenarian tracking?
I think this article should be merged with supercentenarian tracking. Any opinions? Carcharoth 17:28, 9 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Of course - I would just do it. I don't really mind which title is used, although I thought this one clearer. Johnbod 17:31, 9 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I think the article you wrote is better as well. The stub I wrote was more about the current topic as it is today. You've covered the history nicely. Maybe put a subsection in this article noting the point in the history when supercentenarians became a sub-subfield, and merge the useful stuff here. I'd prefer you do it, because you would be able to integrate the material better, though I'll do it if you don't want to. BTW, the sources at the CfD would be a good start - but maybe get Mr Young to add those? Carcharoth 17:36, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually I just pasted the text from the category page - by Mr Y I think. Johnbod 23:00, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * We should use 'supercentenarian tracking' as an (also called). For pre-1970, cases from 100-109 were considered notable. Since 1970, the subject has focused primarily on those aged 110+. Ryoung122 18:03, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I just worry that the term is not well enough known. Johnbod 23:00, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Next to-do: sourcing
A google search turns up lots of sources, someone please help out. Ryoung122 18:49, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Louis Epstein article
Let someone else decide how much of this should be merged into the 'extreme longevity tracking' article:

Louis Epstein (born February 8, 1961) is an American researcher known for compiling lists of the world's oldest people. Guinness World Records, which originated the lists of the world's oldest people, ceased publication of such lists after the 1995 edition. Epstein,feeling one-per-country lists could be improved on and filling a void, began keeping lists privately. These were originally posted on such entities as the alt.obituaries newsgroup in 1997, Longevity Report 70 in 1998, and soon thereafter at www.recordholders.org. In 1998, his lists became the basis for the Gerontology Research Group's tables, including Tables A, B, C, D, and E (subsequent tables were created by Robert Young). Since that time, Epstein has continued to track the world's oldest validated persons.

Jean-Marie Robine has criticized the Epstein lists for lacking completeness; that is, due to the reporting effects older cases are more likely to be reported (age 113+) than those who die at 110 or 111, leading to data distortion (see sources below). However, the criticism is of the list, not of the individual cases, which are generally considered to be valid.[1].

He also runs Putnam Internet Services, an internet service provider in Putnam County, New York[2]. On November 6, 2007 he was resoundingly defeated for election as Supervisor of Kent, New York.(for verification of this see http: // www.putnamcountyny.com / boardofelections / electputnam.html without the spaces.Attempting to make a working link falls afoul of filters incompatible with Lynx (another complaint that should be added to the "Epstein and Wikipedia" section now moved to the talk page)).

[edit] External links http://www.recordholders.org/en/list/oldest.html http://www.grg.org/Adams/Tables.htm http://user.demogr.mpg.de/jwv/pdf/AmActJournal2002.pdf Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Epstein_%28supercentenarian_tracker%29" Categories: Articles for deletion | 1961 births | Living people | Supercentenarian trackers

72.158.38.41 19:14, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Article expansion
Greetings,

I plan to expand this article over time, some of the references added will be useful even if not directly referenced yet. Consider this "under constuction" but feel free to help out. Ryoung122 04:20, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Formatting Assistance
Greetings,

As I plan to focus on content and organization, formatting assistance from another party would be helpful. Ryoung122 04:40, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

"Globalise" tag
Pegging this article as an "unglobal" view seems to be little more than Euro-arrogance masquerating as "diversity." What can be more "global" than the "world"? And if a single line be out of bounds, edit that line rather than tag the whole article.

Also, please give the article creators and developers a little more respect. Learn a little about the subject matter before deigning to criticize. It's like criticizing a movie you haven't watched. Ryoung122 02:35, 10 September 2008 (UTC)


 * As I've already told you on your talk page, removing these tags without addressing the underlying issues is unacceptable; as is your pejorative phraseology, including the above. Please read WP:AGF and WP:NPA. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 08:47, 10 September 2008 (UTC)


 * There is no underlying issue to address. If you wish to have a request for comment to get other opinions about whether this article is "global" or not, please do so. Ryoung122 02:02, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Merge discussion

 * Propose merge. This is a sub-field of Gerontology, not really meriting its own article. Itsmejudith (talk) 20:33, 24 February 2011 (UTC)