Talk:Fédération Internationale de Volleyball

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An article as it stands looks fine to me, but may be a red link to the Olympic Tournament may be replaced by the following existing template in the end of an article?Is it appropriate there?What do you think?

Cmapm 18:01, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)


 * Actually, this link is not a reference to the Olympic Games page, or to any specific edition of the Olympic Games, but to a page I'm planning to write very soon about the Volleyball Olympic Tournament, i.e., about volleyball olympic events considered as a whole. This new page will describe briefly the history of volleyball in the Olympic Games, past winners, competition formula, etc., much like the World Cup and the World League pages. Hopefully the link won't remain red much longer.
 * I believe the template you suggested will fit very well at the end of this new page. I will put it there. Thank you very much for pointing it out. vlad_mv 20:55, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Didn't know that you plan to write it. It would be very fine! Particularly I like your style to mention not only medalists, but to present all the standings. Cmapm 21:27, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)

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== The Fédération Internationale de Volleyball (English: International Volleyball Federation), commonly known by the acronym FIVB, is the international governing body for all forms of volleyball.[3] Its headquarters are located in Lausanne, Switzerland, and its current president is Ary Graça of Brazil. ==

The Fédération Internationale de Volleyball (English: International Volleyball Federation), commonly known by the acronym FIVB, is the international governing body for all forms of volleyball.[3] Its headquarters are located in Lausanne, Switzerland, and its current president is Ary Graça of Brazil. 1.46.129.22 (talk) 11:06, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Query about the Wikipedia articles on the various FIVB events, mostly about their titles
To get straight to my query, why is it that the Wikipedia articles about the various activities or events of FIVB have this quirk:

1) Almost all of these articles start with "FIVB Volleyball", as if there are other volleyballs other than FIVB ones. A WP:CONCISE concern as a redundancy? Understandable, perhaps, to see this quirk in a phrase like "FIVB Volleyball World Cup", to clearly differentiate the article's subject from the more popular "FIFA World Cup" of association football.

2) As a consequence of this quirk in 1, the gender modification in the Wikipedia articles about gender-specific FIVB events are made to follow the word "Volleyball" and not allowed to be placed before it. Thus, in the article titled "FIVB Volleyball Women's Nations League", many would be led to ask why the article wasn't titled "FIVB Women's Volleyball Nations League" instead, the composite event being the VNL. After all, the cited sources all refer to the gender-modified events as the men's VNL and the women's VNL, not the VMNL and the VWNL, in the same manner that the sports media don't ever refer to the WNBA as the NWBA.

3) I understand that this quirk is now rampant in the many articles and year-specific tournament articles under the FIVB Wikipedia project, which would require so many moves, . . . but would many wrongs make 'em all right?

But, please correct me if I'm wrong about my reading of (or discomfort concerning) these article titles' modifier placements, anyone. This query only started as one specific to a single article, which I posted at the Talk Page of "FIVB Volleyball Women's Nations League" under the topic "Query about this article's title", but I soon realized that the quirk (or this modifier-placement problem) is now quite rampant in the many FIVB event articles in Wikipedia. It must be noted that this quirk has only been occurring in FIVB articles, nowhere to be seen in other organizations' event article titles, as far as I know. Bagoto (talk) 10:01, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I agree that the VNL related articles should be as "[insert year] FIVB [insert gender] Volleyball Nations League" not the current ones and per WP:UCRN it stated that article titles should be based on independent, reliable English-language sources. Additionally, when you search "Volleyball Nations League" on Google, the results are either Men's or Women's VNL and not VMNL nor VWNL. I suggest to open a move discussion for this matter.  98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂  •  [𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺]   11:28, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks, 98Tigerius. Per your suggestion, placed a multiple-page move request at the talk page of "FIVB Volleyball Women's Nations League". Bagoto (talk) 00:05, 1 June 2024 (UTC)