Talk:FIM-43 Redeye

"In 1965 to 1956 General Dynamics developed the final Redeye Block III configuration"

1965 to 1956? What's the proper date range here? Should it even be a range? --Schwern

nomenclature

 * M41 appears to be the System number
 * M147 appears to be the launcher number 1st version
 * M171 launcher is the second version.
 * M43 is the missle itself Brian in denver (talk) 20:02, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

The seeker isn't cooked as per the operation section. Instead it is cooled using a Freon tube that is screwed into the launcher improving the pickup of the heat off the engine. Also the missile is a tail chase missile for jets only. For propeller planes it seeks the heat of the engine from the front of the aircraft and with helicopters it picks up heat on a 360 degree arc as the engine is on the top. I was in one of the first units deployed to Germany in May 1968 using the redeye to protect the 1/37th, 4th Armor Div. tanks.2602:306:BC52:8910:1161:E659:4452:47A3 (talk) 02:36, 4 June 2017 (UTC)2602:306:BC52:8910:1161:E659:4452:47A3 (talk) 02:34, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

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Production

 * "Production began in 1968 and ended in September 1969"

It's very doubtful to say the least, that GD produced 85,000 missiles in less than two years, while 10,000 rounds per year was a peak production rate for Stingers (1989) and it took a decade to reach that high. Besides, how the Dept of the Army managed to include 3,400 Redeyes in FY 1978 budget if it was already out of production in 1969? ВоенТех (talk) 18:43, 4 March 2018 (UTC)


 * It should be from 1962-1969, per the sources. I have know idea what the 1978 mention is, but it may have been for upgrades. - BilCat (talk) 18:56, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Let's stop on the "1970s" until the precise date would be found. For at least this doodad was surely manufactured after 1969. ВоенТех (talk) 19:15, 4 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Let's stick to what the sources give as the production dates. The 1978 mention is unclear about what the charge is for, and we can't assume it's for new production unless it actually says that. - BilCat (talk) 19:37, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
 * The 1978 mention gives the price per unit and amount of missiles being procured that year, but anyway, I agree with you, let's stick to what the sources give. Here you have it procured through FY 1970, which is beyond the September 1969. ВоенТех (talk) 19:44, 4 March 2018 (UTC)


 * September 1969 is in FY1970! - BilCat (talk) 19:53, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, before we get to the next point, you'd better google what "fiscal year" stands for. ВоенТех (talk) 20:27, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
 * And one other thing. One Man's Fight Against High-Tech Terrorists & Their Biological/Nuclear Weapons of Death is most likely a NOVEL, which I consider not a best source available to be there, and I do insist on removing it. ВоенТех (talk) 20:32, 4 March 2018 (UTC)


 * I'm used to US fiscal years being October to September. I didn't realize they started in July before 1976, thanks. -Finlayson (talk) 22:27, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Did I mention anything about when did it start? No I didn't. What I actually did is that I mentioned the word f-i-s-c-a-l. It really helps to sort things out. Now, to the point: If you hired a workforce in FY1 to produce that much product, you're gonna face riots within the same quarter after the people get laid off as soon as production cycle stops. One shouldn't have a PhD in economics to realize that. Congress people representing the State of California would have eaten the hearts out of the GD bosses for such a workforce mismanagement. Yes, Redeye is one hell of expensive piece of weaponry, but dealing with mass riots caused by dumb management is even more expensive. It's not Taiwan, who manufactured the Redeyes, so they could not turn a blind eye to that issue like you just did. And I bet they didn't. ВоенТех (talk) 20:58, 7 March 2018 (UTC)