Talk:F Troop

Untitled
I think a lot of the external scenes for F-Troop were filmed at a real Fort Courage (created for the series) which is located on I-40 east of Flagstaff, Arizona.

Copyright violation?
Isn't quoting the entire theme song more than fair use?

Rlquall 02:04, 6 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes. Presumably the lyrics are copyrighted. I wouldn't be surprised if the words to Gilligan's Island were cited in that article, too. The dilemma is that the theme song sets up the premise. So you can restate the theme song and restate the premise and they are pretty much the same. A lot of those early theme songs were basically a capsule explanation of how the characters got where they were. The Beverly Hillbillies would be another example. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 02:13, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Additional lyrics
I seem to recall in its initial run the show had additional lyrics over the end titles in the first few episodes. One source lists-

''Whenever they hail the Cavalry They sing of a certain group But nobody mentions bravery For there's never been any in...F Troop! When Indians come to make a raid No Indian gives a whoop For Indian braves are all afraid The noise‘ll arouse and awake...F Troop! Each man and his horse are closer of course Than brother could be to brother You just can't tell...one...from the other The Cavalry always talks of them if ever morale should droop They know they can cheer downhearted men With tales that are told of the old...F Troop!''Foofbun (talk) 06:01, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Article assessment
I've assessed this article for WP:TV as requested here. I have rated this article as start class because of the lack of an important response section and as low importance because there is little to distinguish it from other articles about television series. The article could be improved by the addition of a response section (covering ratings, critical reception and awards), expansion of the production section and copy-editing. I think there may be some original research where the show is compared to two feature films - are there further references for this comparison?

These categories are arbritrary and are subject to review by any editor who feels confident to do so. Please note that a more formal assessment by other editors is required to achieve good article or featured article status. I used criteria from the television wikiproject guidelines here, article about TV series guidelines here and the assessment guidelines here.--Opark 77 09:49, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Citation Needed
I'd like a source for each episode being 22 minutes long. Retro Agnostic (talk) 08:57, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Historical Inaccuracies
The show's inaccuracy of claiming that Abner Doubleday invented baseball is noted. I'd say that something that was supposed fact at the time the show was produced is not truly an historical inaccuracy in the spirit it is meant here. Anybody agree, and/or is there a Wikipedia policy for this? --PoughkeepsieNative (talk) 17:37, 25 April 2010 (UTC)


 * "Historical inaccuracies" simply describe facts presented in the show that did not actually happen. Sometimes facts are revised after a show is produced because new info is discovered.  But it doesn't matter much when the show was produced.  If it's a significant issue then a disclaimer can be used: "At the time the show was produced it was believed that ..., however, subsequent investigation has shown that ..."


 * But remember that the rigorous treatment of this topic is important for shows that clearly intend to portray significant historical events, such as John Adams (TV miniseries). I find it difficult to seriously consider the topic of "historical inaccuracies" with regard to F-troop.  I mean, would a thoughtful person rely on any "facts" in that show, or cite the show as a source of fact?  -- Wjwalrus (talk) 19:14, 26 April 2010 (UTC)


 * The problem, as I see it, is in what I added - that even the Doubleday myth (which is in his article, so I didn't feel it needed a cite) was not around in the 1860s, and therefore, the character should not have been able to refer to it. Whereas, in a show that takes place in, say, World War Two, mention of Doubleday inventing baseball wouldn't a be a problem. However, I also ket what was posted, till an agreement is reached.209.244.187.155 (talk) 19:51, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
 * A further note to that is that the reference to Doubleday occurs in an imagined future at which time the supposed "invention of baseball by Doubleday" had occurred. Of course, someone imagining the occasion from 1867 should not have been able to have such a conception; the scenario was imbued from the viewing audience's point of view for comedic effect. 73.174.36.17 (talk) 15:24, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

According to the Custer wiki page "Before war's end, Custer was promoted to the temporary rank (brevet) of major general. (At war's end, this was reduced to the permanent rank of Lieutenant Colonel)."15:28, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

The claim that "By all reliable accounts, it's impossible for Duffy to have been wounded at the Alamo in 1836, as no white adult males fighting for Texas are known to have survived the battle." is incorrect. There is a page, List_of_Texian_survivors_of_the_Battle_of_the_Alamo that lists many survivors of the siege of the Alamo, including 28 soldiers.

Comment on "Lady in Black"
OK, it has "Wrongo Starr and the Lady in Black" with the comment that "Wrongo Starr" is a takeoff on "Ringo Starr", the drummer for the Beatles. "Lady in Black" reminds me of the Beatles' song "Baby's in Black", recorded sometime in 2nd half of 1964, but because of the original-research angle of the comment you are reading, I am not including it in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.63.16.82 (talk) 15:40, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Melody Patterson's age
If Melody Patterson's birthdate, as shown on her Wiki page, is indeed April 16, 1949, she would not have turned 18 until April 16, 1967 -- ten days after the final new episode of the series aired. The statement "By the time production of the second season started, Patterson had turned 18[...]" is therefore untrue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.185.245.113 (talk) 07:44, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Episode titles
These should be merely quotated, not italicized. 72.104.146.188 (talk) 22:09, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Hekawi Clothing and Dress
Is there an expert on Indian tribes who can identify the type of tribe the Hekawis would most likely resemble based on their clothing and dress? Is it too generic or mixed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tim Gruber (talk • contribs) 12:28, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

NCO Club hit and Dobbs kicking the cannon
NCO club wasn't hit nearly as much as the watertower, whether from a cannonball or rifle fire. For that matter I believe the NCO club was only hit once which is already mentioned. I believe Agarn usually kicked the cannon and although Dobbs did too but I'm not sure how often.Tim Gruber (talk) 20:47, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

A Serious Man
In "A Serious Man," the boy in the film watches F Troop. Perhaps add a section or "In Popular Culture." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Renfield1031 (talk • contribs) 17:28, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

The plot engine
It seems remiss that the comments regarding the plot engine (in the Creation and production section) don't mention M & M Enterprises from Catch-22.

68.112.253.222 (talk) 17:54, 9 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Very true and then there's... Tony Curtis as LtJG Nick Holden in "Operation Petticoat" (1959), '...demonstrates great skill as a scavenger and con artist as the submarine's supply officer.' And again, as Cpl Jackson Leibowitz, a wheeler-dealer from New Jersey, in "Captain Newman, M.D." (1963). 76.218.248.127 (talk) 19:00, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

The Horses
As a lover of this program, as well as a horse owner, I find a lack of information about the horses and the horse trainer. These horses are trick trained, and do some amazing stunts throughout the series. They are a large and vital part of the show and deserve more credit. The episode "A Horse of Another Color" (Season 2, episode 21) particularly shows the talents and abilities of these horses. I'd like to find out who trained them, and learn much more about the horses in general. The average viewer may not notice their talents as much as someone like myself who works with and owns horses. I will end by saying that these horses had excellent training and show abilities far above the average horse. They deserve much more credit in this article. 208.74.247.250 (talk) 12:22, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Great, you should definitely write a more detailed article that includes some of that information. Please be sure to use reliable sources and keep the article in balance. Also, be sure not to vandalize the article like you did at flash mob. Best of luck, Mkdw talk 15:58, 16 November 2015 (UTC)