Talk:FaZe Clan

Respawn partnership
Their partnership is with Respawn Products, a gaming focused furniture company, not Respawn Entertainment. The link provided is to the later and should be edited to reflect that --2601:40B:300:FE60:1DE4:3A69:DD2E:FCC1 (talk) 19:24, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

Cheating
Since this clan is known for having members that cheat in Call Of Duty games (usually exploiting Quickscoping among other dirty and questionable tactics), can there be a section added as long as it's properly sourced? --2601:40E:8100:870F:416A:10FE:1C4D:659D (talk) 21:02, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

There has been no case of cheating except of the case involving the Agony twins, which happened years ago and as a result they were kicked out of FaZe and later rejoined after having apologized to the community and talked with the team. So I think there's no reason for a separate section Γιαννης Παπαδογκονας (talk) 13:41, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

It's still going on. There's members of the clan that are cheating in Black Ops 4 multiplayer using aimbot and purposely lagging to get advantages. There are a series of videos being produced with the proof and will be sent to various sources. --2601:40E:8100:870F:57E:3138:3BED:9906 (talk) 15:47, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

There are currenetly multiple members of this clan being reported in the media for cheating. Subsequently a lot of of them have been given bans by the gaming companies involved. COD: Warzone, Fportnite and multiple others. This section needs to be expanded and further talked about. Cheating in games is nothing other than fraud, and doing so in competitions where money is involved should have serious consequences. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 105.244.196.96 (talk) 14:18, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

WTF happened to the article?
Who and why deleted most of the article that so many people through so much effort had put together? And why hasn't anyone revised the edit??? Γιαννης Παπαδογκονας (talk) 15:13, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
 * No one has reverted the edit because it was correct per Wikipedia guidelines. See the discussion here Articles for deletion/FaZe Clan, which decided not to delete the article outright, but showed a strong consensus that much of the details needed trimmed and removed. -- ferret (talk) 16:14, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 April 2019
Please could you update the Manager and CEO title role from Thomas Oliveira to Lee Trink (Former President of Capitol Records), who has taken the CEO position over back in September 2017. He is an owner and investor as well. Many thanks.

Chillifinga (talk) 18:04, 15 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi, I've made the change per your last two sources, if anyone disagrees or has a better source feel free to revert. --IrnBruFan7 (talk) 09:44, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting wait.svg Already done NiciVampireHeart 22:17, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

Rewrite of article
I've put a tag on the article looking for help in rewriting in the article, as what is left from the previous deletion doesn't make much sense by itself. It would be good to get some prose for each of the teams and a brief history, I'll try to make a start, give me a shout if anything needs added. -- IrnBruFan7 (talk) 14:00, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 December 2019
Owners

Thomas Oliveira (FaZe Temperrr) Yousef Abdelfattah (FaZe Apex) Richard Bengtson (FaZe Banks) Nordan Shat (FaZe Rain) Lee Trink Brian Awadis (FaZe Rug) Alexander Hamilton Pinkevich (FaZe Adapt) Immunityintel (talk) 04:49, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. – Thjarkur (talk) 15:33, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Controversies
How is the July 2021 crypto scam and member ejections not covered here? https://www.pcgamer.com/faze-clan-kicks-one-member-suspends-three-more-over-crypto-scam/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.61.242.206 (talk) 17:43, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

I have been steadily adding some of FaZe Clan's biggest controversies, and have a few more in line, but do you think these are notable/notorious enough to be there? These are just quick drafts and not text that is going to be there.

August 2017 – Jake Paul claimed that FaZe owner Richard "Banks" Bengston assaulted his assistant. The assistant was later found out to be lying.

November 2017 – FaZe owner Richard "Banks" Bengston and Alissa Violet Butler were allegedly assaulted in Barley House bar by the bodyguards. Barley House released their statement, saying that they didn't assault anyone, Bengston and Violet were shouting obscenities on people, not respecting the bar's bodyguards..

June 2018 – FAZE Apparel filed a lawsuit over the phrase "FaZe", which FaZe Clan were selling on their merchandise. FaZe had to start using the phrase "FaZe Clan" on all their merchandise.

September 2018 – FaZe member Nate "Nate Hill" Hill and his teammate, Trevor "Funk" Siegler, were playing in the Fortnite Fall Skirmish. When Siegler died in-game, he started watching the live stream of the tournament and called out positions of his enemies. They both quickly publicly apologied. Epic Games suspended both of them from the tournament.

June 2019 – Investor group Hubrick files a lawsuit on FaZe Clan for theft of furniture, equipment, data and for spreading their trade secrets.

October 2019 – FaZe owner Richard "Banks" Bengston wrecked an apartment in Las Vegas, causing 30,000 USD in damages.

November 2019 – FaZe member Jarvis "Jarvis" Khattri was seen using third party programs, hacks, in the video game Fortnite Battle Royale. That is against Epic Games' terms of service and they permanently banned him. The community were pretty vocal about it, and FaZe Clan is continually having discussions with Epic Games about it.

December 2019 – Professional gamer for FaZe, Kyle "Mongraal" Jackson and his teammates, Benjy "benjyfishy" Fish, Jaden "Wolfiez" Ashman, Nathan "nayte" Berquignol, and their coach also signed by FaZe, Hugh "DestinysJesus" Gilmour were competing in a Fortnite tournament. A few days later a video came out allegedly showing Gilmour giving information about their enemies by watching their live streams. Epic Games reviewed the case and didn't rule him guilty.

Krafko (talk)
 * How are these controversies "about" Faze Clan the organization? The first one is Jake Paul making a statement about the owner of the company, unrelated to the company business. Everything is more of WP:FANCRUFT about controversies involving players, but not the organization itself. Being associated with the organization does not make an organization for acts of its members. --CNMall41 (talk) 16:31, 17 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Since no response, I have moved this section to the talk page for now. Many of these controversies are not for Faze Clan itself but for people who may be associated with it. Would welcome a discussion to determine which ones are actually appropriate for the body of the page and which ones simply need to go based on WP:WEIGHT, WP:FANCRUFT, or WP:TMI. Keep in mind that Wikipedia is not here for people to post complaints about the organization. Everything must be reliably sourced and also conform to other policies and guidelines such as those cited above. --CNMall41 (talk) 23:42, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Controversies
On May 7, 2014, former FaZe graphics designer and creators of its logo, Joey "Ferox" Ricciuto released a video, stating that "he felt used and not respected". A year later, Oliveira released a statement, saying "Ferox helped us with a lot of our early graphics design in our history. [...] I always gave him my input on how I wanted the team to be branded." Oliveira also addressed the creation of the FaZe logo: "Did he create the FaZe logo? No. I came up with the concept of it. He designed it."

On July 16, 2016, journalist Richard Lewis published messages purporting to show that FaZe owners Nordan "Rain" Shat and Richard "Banks" Bengston owned CSGOWild, a betting site. Two days later, YouTuber "HonorTheCall" uploaded a video where he accused them of knowing the outcome of rolls in advance. On the same day, CSGOWild's owner released a statement saying, "FaZe Clan, and any of its members do not and have never owned any part of Wild." continuing, "...we worked out a sponsorship deal. Banks, Rain and a few other team members got paid in return for promotion. [...] Not only did we stop working with the guys from FaZe over a month ago..." On May 10, 2020, Bengston admitted owning and registering CSGOWild in Antigua to fund their professional Counter-Strike: Global Offensive team, making upwards of $200,000 every day. Shat denied Bengston's statements.

On January 26, 2015, FaZe Clan announced co-producing the video game Starnet Eclipse with iCazual Entertainment. In the video, FaZe solicited donations, which would give donors exclusive content, to fund the game. iCazual promised to release the game in June 2015, but instead released a pre-alpha version. iCazual stated that the game was scheduled for release in 2016, but nothing came to fruition. On September 5, 2016, YouTuber "HonorTheCall" released a video about the game's delays, promises, and high prices; pointing to being a scam. iCazual promptly released a statement, in which they said they are issuing refunds to the donors. It is speculated that the game's development has been halted.

On May 20, 2019, Fortnite player for FaZe, Turner "Tfue" Tenney, filed a lawsuit against FaZe, alleging that the organization had deprived him of business opportunities and taking up to 80 percent of his sponsorship revenue. Tenney also claimed that some members had encouraged him to gamble and drink while underage. FaZe released a statement denying the claims and stating they have not collected any money based on Tenney's tournament winnings or social media revenue, and only collected 20 percent of his sponsorship revenue. Tenney later recanted the claim regarding underage gambling and drinking. Tenney's lawyer, Bryan Freedman, says the two main reasons for the lawsuit are FaZe operating as a talent agency without having the license to do so, and Tenney's 6 month restrain from live streaming after the expiry of his contract. Freedman claims that Tenney is an artist and entertainer foremost. FaZe's chief executive officer Lee Trink responded: "The salary was for his professional gaming skills. He doesn't convert to something else because he has other interests." On August 1, 2019, FaZe counter sued Tenney for "divulging confidential information, publicly slandering the company, advocating for others to leave the company,...". Tenney signed his contract in the state of New York, the contract says all litigation must be done in New York. Tenney filed the lawsuit in California, using its laws about the talent agency claims, while FaZe filed it in New York. On August 26, 2020, FaZe and Tenney had settled both lawsuits.

Tenney also claimed FaZe signed a minor, Patrick "H1ghSky1", and continuously lied about his age, violating the California Labor Code. At the time of H1ghSky1's signing, he was only 11-years-old. He was suspended from multiple social media websites and from competing in the Fortnite World Cup 2019.

Add E-Sports History
If someone Can Add Call of duty history including Optic Gaming Rivalry and Faze 2.0 When Faze entered CSGO in 2016 And Also about the Games they compete In. S.AbdulBasit20 (talk) 17:29, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 May 2020
10 years ago not 9! 68.193.127.136 (talk) 23:05, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure why the template wasn't working - editing the page seems to have tripped the counting system to get it to 10 years. --Prosperosity (talk) 23:24, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
 * ❌ or ✅? I can't tell what you're asking, but I guess it doesn't matter now. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon &bull; videos) 23:34, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ - Template:Start date and age in the infobox was stuck on nine years. It seemed like it needed a page edit to automatically update the figure. --Prosperosity (talk) 23:36, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 August 2020
why

hello I am FAZE Clan's manager I would like to help you make some changes to your page your's sincerely FAZE clan
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 03:19, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 August 2020
Change Twitter Account from https://twitter.com/FaithClanGG to https://twitter.com/FaZeClan

Sources: https://fazeclan.com/ - https://twitter.com/FaZeClan - https://www.youtube.com/c/faze/about Itsroot (talk) 19:54, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Not done: @FaithClanGG doesn't appear to be mentioned anywhere in the article?  Seagull123  Φ  21:04, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 January 2021
add twistzz to csgo roster 2A02:C7F:C5E:DE00:69FD:D187:1C2C:D4D (talk) 17:10, 30 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Yes check.svg Done. Next time make sure to accompany your edit request with a reliable source. Since this was easy enough to verify, I've made the edit and added a citation myself. Volteer1 (talk) 18:38, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Request edit on 4 March 2021
* What I think should be changed''': Add "Lee Trink" to "Owners" list of FaZe Clan


 * Why it should be changed: "Lee Trink" has an ownership stake in FaZe Clan, as seen in verified Instagram bio.


 * References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):

Info Snail (talk) 14:08, 4 March 2021 (UTC)


 * ❌ reliable source not provided Ⓩⓟⓟⓘⓧ Talk 22:24, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Is the recent crypto scandal involving 4 FaZe Clan members notable?
I'll happily do the legwork if someone with >1000 edits tells me the incident is notable. I'll find verifiable sources and add a short paragraph to the article under the relevant subsection. LaceyUF (talk) 23:34, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I understand this comment was made by an indef-blocked user, also FaZe basically just broke ties with any individuals involved in this rug pull scam, but I think it should be included in this article as I am not sure where else this info could be included. What's you opinion? -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk · contri.) 01:09, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Key would be if this was covered by reliable sources (which a quick google check confirms, at least a Kotaku and Engadget one). --M asem (t) 01:19, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
 * The problem is WP:SYNTH. Was FaZe involved in the scandal? --CNMall41 (talk) 16:28, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Kay was still a member of FaZe when this was happening. I don't think WP:Synth applies here, leaders of an organization don't have to be directly involved in an incident to justify the inclusion. Apart from Kay, 3 other members are suspended of activites by FaZe for involvement in the alleged crypto scam, this itself is worth mentioning in this article because it demonstrate the severity of the incident.[//www.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSFLM8Q1KHs Reuters] -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk · contri.) 23:31, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I am not sure I follow the logic. If someone who is on the team is involved in something outside the company why would that get mentioned on the company page? --CNMall41 (talk) 03:21, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
 * If WP:RS report it in the context of the company then WP:NPOV says we have to. Horse Eye&#39;s Back (talk) 06:15, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

Someone should add that Snoop Dogg is now a member of FaZe and its board of directors
I would do it myself but the page is protected.

According to IGN:

"Snoop Dogg has joined FaZe Clan's board of directors, and will now produce content under the brand's umbrella. Snoop has streamed games on Twitch for years and will continue to as part of FaZe Clan, though as a board member will be responsible for grander business initiatives – including a community outreach programme intended to support young people."

https://www.ign.com/articles/snoop-dogg-joins-esports-brand-faze-clan-as-a-director

According to his Twitter:

"Joined @FaZeClan. 🔥💫"

https://twitter.com/SnoopDogg/status/1500879154509598720

Sincerely, IP Jones 74.215.142.74 (talk) 23:30, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Requested move 27 March 2022

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: Not moved There seems to be a consensus that the stylized title reflects general usage. (non-admin closure) --Ahecht (TALK PAGE ) 20:17, 3 April 2022 (UTC) .

FaZe Clan → Faze Clan – Per MOS:TM&#32;– Pbrks (t • c) 00:47, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
 * This is a contested technical request (permalink). GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 04:52, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
 * Capitalization changes are often controversial and require discussion. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 04:52, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Support The title is totally stylized, so per WP:ALLCAPS it should be in lowercase. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 10:50, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose There is nothing against this sort of camelcase name on MOS:TM, which states "the style may be used where it reflects general usage and makes the trademark more readable." The vast majority of sources write "FaZe Clan", not "Faze Clan". The title should remain as is. Nohomersryan (talk) 23:23, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
 * It fails precisely the text you quoted. Camelcase is appropriate if
 * it reflects general usage, and
 * it makes the trademark more readable.
 * Failing either of above criterion means that camelcase is not appropriate. "FaZe" may be used more often, but it does not make the trademark more readable; in fact, it is less readable than "Faze" (is "FaZe" pronounced "Fah-zee"? Or "Fay-zee"?). – Pbrks (t • c) 23:59, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
 * SupportFaze Clan as pronounced https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zj7vrSpjMDo In ictu oculi (talk) 07:59, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Per MOS:TM. I think it is a judgment call if it makes it "more readable," but it is surely used more in the FaZe form. It definitely makes it more recognizable as the company with camel case. It is also a judgment call according to the MOS and I don't see discussion anywhere where there is a hard fast rule on previous name style requests. --CNMall41 (talk) 14:24, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose Per Manual of Style/Trademarks and general usage.--Yaksar (let's chat) 17:58, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose. From a google search, New York Times, Sports Illustrated, Washington Post, Hollywood Reporter, Wall Street Journal, Forbes, and others all use the capital Z, this is what we should use too. This adheres to MOS:TM, which says "When a name is almost never written except in a particular stylized form, use that form on Wikipedia", and allows camel casing like this. Less readable? I do not believe it. It is the more WP:COMMONNAME, and is thus more readable to casual people who may have seen the name and look it up. --Quiz shows 18:23, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 * But it's not "almost never". On the first page of Google News, searching "Faze Clan" (of course, case does not matter in Google search), we get Sports Business Journal and PC Gamer both using "Faze Clan". Kotaku and The Verge do not use the camelcase. "Almost never" is blatantly not true. Moreover, less readable is not the bar (although I indeed do think it is less readable), simply not being more readable is. – Pbrks (t • c) 21:22, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I think writing FaZe this way is "more readable", since "readable" is a pretty vague thing to say either way, and this is what I would expect it to be at given the sources, so I guess we just do not agree. Btw, though. Those sources have also written "FaZe" in other pages, like PC Gamer and Kotaku (this one uses both). So in my view, it's not like they are opposed to it. They probably just didn't have a consistent style scheme. --Quiz shows 21:37, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose per reasons stated. I agree that the "readability" argument seems vague. Couldn't one argue that "FaZe" would be more understood by the general public, as opposed to simply saying "Faze"? Also, general usage leans towards "FaZe", even if you can find some sources that do not capitalize the "Z" or do both styles within the same article. Clear Looking Glass (talk) 01:52, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Per Clear Looking Glass, the readability argument is inverted here: we wouldn't move "NASA" to "Nasa" because that would change the sense of the word.  "FaZe" makes clear it's about the esports organization.  Anyway, if The New York Times uses "FaZe", that sounds like it's valid to use on Wikipedia, too.  SnowFire (talk) 22:01, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose. FaZe Clan markets themselves as FaZe Clan on all their social media accounts. XDPOGCHAMPEPEGA (talk) 02:27, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 May 2022
Faze Clan is no longer partnered with "G Fuel", they are now sponsored by a company known as "Ghost Energy." JustBacon (talk) 22:01, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. MadGuy7023 (talk) 22:11, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

Going public
In light of Faze Clan going public, I think the article needs a major update, especially in the "owners" section. SVTCobra 01:41, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 March 2023
The "C" in FaZe Clan is capitalized, however, it is often being referred to as "FaZe clan". CajunDiscordian (talk) 06:24, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ – Pbrks (t • c) 14:23, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 March 2023
FaZe Halo roster is outdated. Current FaZe Halo roster: Renegade // Jonathan Willette - United States

Frosty // Bradley Bergstrom - United States

Royal2 // Mathew Fiorante - Canada

SnakeBite // Paul Duarte - United States

There is also a FaZe Apex Legends team:

Snip3down // Eric Wrona - United States

Frexs // Joseph Sanchez - United States

Phony // Josue Daniel Ruiz - United States Fuujinkata (talk) 10:29, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:50, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 March 2024
FaZe Clan’s Rainbow Six Siege Roster needs to be updated. Cksherlock1 (talk) 05:42, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Jamedeus (talk) 06:03, 5 March 2024 (UTC)