Talk:Fabio Grobart

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Thank you very much Polaris that is a great start. I will begin to add immediately. One problem will be his many aliases. There is even a misspelling of Grobart as Grovart for in one of Castro's speeches, the minutes were apparently taken by somebody from old Oriente province where the v is synonymous with the b, as in viajaca, a fresh water "pan" fish (usually Cichlasoma tetracanthus ), which is commonly spelt Biajaca in the rest of the country. El Jigue 1-13-06


 * Not just Oriente - I know many Cubans from other parts of the country who regularly confuse b and v. The Revolution may have eliminated illiteracy, but it hasn't taught everyone how to spell properly ! -- Beardo 01:38, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Beardo, your kind editing is much appreciated. As to the spelling Spanish you are formally correct. Yet while this "tongue" is in great part a phonetic language, however, there are strong influences from archaic sources. The "Royal Academy of the Tongue" gets its licks in but archaic roots often influence the spelling, grammar and usage, when a Güajiro greets one with what seems to be a disrespectful" !Oye tu!" (Hey you!) what we hear is an echo of the ancient Taíno formal salutation "!Oyea Tau!" (Humble greetings great Sir!). Additions continue El Jigüe 1-14-07

Otto Katz
One wonders at the relationships between Fabio Grobart and Otto Katz. Koch, Stephen. 1994 (2004 edition) Double Lives. Enigma Press, New York ISBN 1929631200 103-104, 346-349 and others. From 103 states " He (Otto Katz) is known to have worked closely there (Mexico City) with the long time NKVD chieftain Umansky, spending the war (WW II) much involved in Soviet operations within the United States and the Caribbean, working among other things with Fidel Castro's predecessor, Fulgencio Batista. Batista was at this time much admired and promoted by the left, and Katz was empowered to make Batista grand offers on behalf of the Soviet Union if Batista would enter Stalin's sphere of influence. (footnoted to Otto Katz, FOIA dossier #65-9266) El Jigue 208.65.188.149 14:30, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Jewish background
Margalit Bejarano, The Jewish Community of Cuba: Between Continuity and Extinction, in Jewish Political Studies Review, v. 3, pp. 115-140 at p. 122 (1991): "Jewish presence in the early stages of Cuba's Communist Party aroused the interest of historians following the communist turn in Fidel Castro's Revolution. According to the minutes of the founding session of the Cuban Communist Party three out of the ten founders were Jews; [FN25: Acta de constitucion del Partido Comunista de Cuba," in Hortensia Pitchardo, Documentos para la Historia de Cuba, III (Havana, 1973), pp. 299-301; Boris Goldenberg, "The Rise and Fall of a Party, the Cuban CP (1970):61-80] one of them, Yunger Simchowitch, was destined to play a central role in the history of Cuban communism under the name of Fabio Grobart. To day, at the age of 85 and still an active member of the Central Committee of the Cuban Communist Party, Grobart denies his past links with the Jewish community, but witnesses remember him as the most active propagandist among the Jewish workers. [FN26: Grobart refused to be interviewed by the author, claiming that he had never had contacts with the Jewish community. A book dedicated to Grobart on his 80th birthday does not mention his Hebrew name ? Abraham Simchowitch. Fabio Grobart, Un forjador eternamente joven (Havana, 1985). See also Boris Kozolchyk, The Political Biographies of Three Castro Officials (Santa Monica, 1966), pp. 1-14; interviews:David Utiansky, Tel Aviv, 1981; Osher Schuchinsky, Miami, 1984]" Andygx (talk) 13:21, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

nomination to be checked for its neutrality
Without discussion, examples or rebuttal El C has requested that this page be checked for neutrality. This request might well be evaluated in view of El C's page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:El_C) El Jigue208.65.188.149 15:57, 1 June 2007 (UTC) Two months have passed without any attempt to substantiate charges. Thus this notice has been removed. El Jigue208.65.188.149 04:30, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Reference Format
Moved from article to talk RJFJR (talk) 01:18, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

A note was a fixed May 14 complaining about format of references. No suggestions or other changes have been made or proposed. Thus I have removed this note. El Jigue208.65.188.149 04:30, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Outline of Major Events in Fabio Grobart's life
Born Poland August 30, 1905

Fled Poland (circa 1922)

Arrival in Cuba (circa 1922)

Founding of the Cuban Communist Party (1925) in collaboration with Julio Antonio Mella, Ruben Martinez Villena and 14 others

Assassation of Julio Antonio Mella 10 January 1929

Expelled from Cuba by Gerardo Machado Government (trial dated circa 1926, expelled from Cuba 1930 and or 1932)

Returned to Cuba with false passport March 1933

Alliance with Machado government August 1933 (see Grobart 1975)

Alliance with Fulgencio Batista Government (circa 1939-1940)

Expulsion by Carlos Prio Government (1948–1950)

Return to Cuba to support Fidel Castro Government (1959)

Supported Castro in internal struggle of microfaction (middle and late 1960s)

Died Cuba October 22, 1994

His real name was: Avraham Simchovich / Avraham Moishe Grobard
https://www.jevzajcg.me/enciklopedia/Encyclopaedia%20Judaica,%20v.%2008%20%28Gos-Hep%29.pdf https://lafronteratransparente.com/2022/07/21/que-tienen-en-comun-ciertos-recien-finados-con-otros-que-se-fueron-hace-un-tiempo-atras 2001:9E8:188B:A500:BD89:BB0C:3B75:B4EF (talk) 22:17, 30 June 2024 (UTC)