Talk:Fairy Flag

Bannatyne manuscript
Was the Bannatyne manuscript that is referenced to within the article ever published? I think that if it was viewable on-line somewhere it could really add to the article. It was supposedly written by William MacLeod Bannatyne in the 1830s. Googling the term really only turns up the 1500s 'Bannatyne manuscript' written by George Bannatyne; and 19th century versions of it are viewable on GoogleBooks. I suspect the section "Traditional account from a manuscript dating to c.1800" deals with the 1830s Bannatyne manuscript, but unfortunately F.T. MacLeod didn't say that specifically in his article—he only said that that manuscript was quoting was written in about 1800.--Celtus (talk) 08:39, 18 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't think the Bannatyne manuscript has been published. Historian William Matheson, writing in 1979, thanked another historian for letting him see a transcription of it . So I doubt it was then out in the open anywhere, at least then anyways. The manuscript is quoted in R.C. MacLeod's book and it very different than the quotation that F.T. MacLeod gave in his paper. Also, F.T. MacLeod stated that the manuscript he quoted dates from 'about 1800', not quite the date of the Bannatyne manuscript (1830s). So I think they have to be different accounts. It would be cool to see online though.--Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 11:00, 21 January 2010 (UTC)


 * I just noticed that the writer of the Bannatyne manuscript states that when the last flag bearer was buried, his grandfather witnessed the ceremony. The writer of the other manuscript states that the last funeral took place in his father's time.--Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 08:04, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Fairy Flag
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Fairy Flag's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "morrison": From William Dubh MacLeod:  From Ljótólfr:  

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 10:31, 21 January 2010 (UTC)


 * I think that now the Morrison ref (1947) should be good to go.--Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 10:42, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Copy edit - March 2010
Following a request at the Guild of Copy Editors, I am doing a copy edit of this article. Here are some small issues that I have:
 * The flag is made of silk, is yellow or brown in colour, and measures about 18 inches (46 cm) either way. - What does either way mean? Is it a square flag? - OK, I have now read the part below about it being square. If that is correct, I would substitute "either way" with "squared".
 * OK, I will sub it with "squared".--Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 10:36, 28 March 2010 (UTC)


 * The silk of the flag has been stated to have originated in the Far East, leading some to believe that the flag may have been an important relic of some sort. - Silk did come from the Far East - nothing unusual here. So, why would it be a relic? Perhaps more explanation here would be useful.
 * Hmm, this part refers to Wace's statement in the first paragraph: It was his opinion that the flag, in its original state, would have been quite precious, possibly a relic like the shirt of a saint. Pretty flimsy by itself; I'm not sure what would have led him to think that it could have been relic of a saint, other than just pure imagination. Maybe the relic bit doesn't need to appear in the lead, since it is just a sentence in the whole article?--Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 10:36, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
 * That's OK, it just needs further explanation/expansion. I will add a bit more to that sentence to explain why it might be considered a relic.-- S Masters (talk) 16:32, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

I have done up to and including "Other episodes", but I have to stop now. I will continue another time. I will also need to go through from the beginning as there are issues with the present and past tense used throughout. If another editor wants to pick up where I left off, do proceed but please record your progress here. Thanks. -- S Masters (talk) 08:38, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I have now completed the copy edit. There are no other outstanding issues on my end. Let me know on my talk page if any other help is required. Cheers. -- S Masters (talk) 13:38, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks!--Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 04:54, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Landravager
The is very interesting and I'd love to see it fleshed out, but a single blogpost by a lawyer and businessman (who happens to be a member of the family that claims descent from the same king) may not be enough of a source to justify inclusion here. Can we find something a little more reliable to cite? Ibadibam (talk) 21:17, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

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