Talk:Fairy chess

Disagree with merge --Java7837 05:32, 20 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Ok, may be we can have a separate article for this, since it is a genre of chess problems. But how to prevent duplication of this article content and chess variants article? Andreas Kaufmann 20:47, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

FIDE album
FIDE album is relevant, why removing? --AndrejJ (talk) 05:33, 17 December 2009 (UTC)


 * That passage seems to be about how FIDE Albums are organized. Is it just there to say that there are fairy chess problems in official FIDE publications? If so, it should say that, because as it is currently written it seems tangential, and is kind of incoherent (it doesn't even contain real sentences). &mdash; Gwalla | Talk 00:39, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

FIDE Album structure
Recent edit has changed the sentence about structure of FIDE Album. It is based on the fact that helpmates are judged in two bunches, one of them h#2, the other all longer helpmates. However alleged separation of them into two sections is not really the case for the Album publication. I have in hand right now recently published FIDE Album 2004-2006 and there is only one section (E) for helpmates with two sets of judges. That is why I revert the recent edit. --Ruziklan (talk) 21:52, 7 September 2013 (UTC)


 * If you go the the link to the FIDE Album in the External Links section, it says nine sections as per my edit. There seems to be a discrepancy between the FIDE site and your album, do you agree? And how to explain the difference? Ihardlythinkso (talk) 23:55, 7 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the explanation.
 * Yes, obviously there is a difference between WFCC site (both old - http://www.saunalahti.fi/~stniekat/pccc/fa.htm - no longer updated, and new - http://www.wfcc.ch/fide-albums/ - which just copies the content of the old site in this matter - and in many other points) and actual printed Album. The core of the difference in my view lies in the definition of the word "section". As far as I know, it is not defined precisely anywhere (but maybe in the codex of chess composition? I have not read it for years).
 * WFCC site takes section as a share of compositions for the purpose of Album selection judged by 3 judges and directed by director. In this sense, recent Albums really have 9 sections as there are 9 directors and 3x9 judges.
 * Printed FIDE Album 2004-2006, published in 2013 - which I had in hand the day before yesterday and still have in my library - however has problems divided to only eight sections: A (#2), B (#3), C (#n), D (eg), E (h#), F (s#), G (fairies), H (retro). At the start of E section there are given two directors and 2x3 judges, for both "sub-sections" of h#2 and h#n. ::This division of helpmates was done for practical reasons, due to unbearable amount of submitted helpmates to be judged (the decision with reasons probably could be found somewhere in old PCCC minutes), first applied to the selection for period 2001-2003.
 * --Ruziklan (talk) 12:13, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

"Stipulation"?
The article refers to "new stipulations" as one of the ways to vary chess, besides new rules, pieces, and boards. Help! What is a "stipulation"? I know it as a legal term. Zaslav (talk) 02:29, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
 * "STIPULATION = the demand(s) made on the solver by the composer of a chess problem. The Laws of Orthodox Chess are held to apply at all times except in so far as the composer has defined other conditions in the stipulation beneath the diagram, in which case those other conditions are held to apply all the time that particular diagram is being considered. The principal exception to the latter part of the convention is the Maximummer." --IHTS (talk)