Talk:Faisal bin Musaid Al Saud

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 * The writer/social anthropologist Madawi Al Rasheed writes that they had to leave Saudi Arabia after 1975..as her fathers sisters son Prince Faisal bin Musad had assassinated his paternal uncel, King Faisal of Saudi Arabia. Nothing is mentioned about the Rashidi connection on the Prince Faisal bin Musad page, perhaps it should be? I am presently reading the book by Madawi Al Rasheed, does anybody else have a knowledge/opinion about it? -Look at the Rashidi page and discussion site for ref. Huldra 00:55, 1 September 2005 (UTC)


 * I changed the inf. about prince Khalid beeing shot during demonstrations; according to his maternal relatives he was shot by the police in his own home. -Huldra

The Celebration of Prophet Muhammad's (PBUH) Birthday
This article states: "where King Faisal was holding a celebration for the birthday of Muhammad, the prophet of Islam"

This claim needs backing up, the celebration of the birthday of the Prophet (PBUH) is agreed to be an innovation according to Sunni doctrine, so how could King Faisal (the ruler of Saudi Arabia) be celebrating it?

It is not a claim. It is a fact. He was at the blessed Mawlid. On another note, it is a lie that 'according to Sunni doctrine' 'it is agreed' to be an innovation. Because Sunni doctrine is Ash'ari and Maturidi, and not the salafi/wahabi doctrine practiced in state in Saudi Arabia. King Faisal was not a wahabi/salafi. Sunnis are those who follow the four schools of jurisprudence and have the Ash'ari and Maturidi 'Aqida. Lets see how many Sunni scholars do celebrate and attend the celebration of the blessed birth of our Master salAllaho 'alayhi wa alihi wa salam around the world

Shaykh Sh'arawi rahimahuAlla Shaykh RamaDan al-Bouti Shaykh 'Alawi al-Maliki rahimahuAllah Shaykh 'AbdAllah al-Kadi al-Ahsai Shaykh Habib 'Umar bin Hafiz Shaykh Abdul Ghaffar al-Shareef of Kuwait Shaykh Adib Kallas of Damascus, including almost all of the Sunni 'ulama of Damascus including Shaykh Ahmad Kuftaro and Shaykh Muhammad Sukkar, both of whom passed away recently The Mufti and 90% of the Awqaf 'ulama of Lebanon except the salafiyya Shaykh 'Ali Jum'a Mufti of Egypt and pretty much all of the scholars of Ahl al-Sunna in Egypt Shaykh Fad'aq al-Hashimi al-Makki and the Habaib of Makkah

Celebration of Mawlid al-Nabi is a national holiday, and a great day of happiness in Malaysia, Indonesia, Brunei, Maldives, Sudan, Mauritania, Morocco.

The King of Morocco himself attends Mawlid including all the Sunni Shuyukh of Morocco and Libya.

Turkey has 100,000 Mawlids in Rabi'ulawwal. The Mufti and Awqaf of Turkey, including all the Sunni scholars attend Mawlids. There is no wahabi there.

Mawlid is the national holiday in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh, where more than 90% of the population and Sunni scholars celebrate it.

The list goes on "In Nigeria, Mawlids are 3 million strong" usually. I mean that big gatherings. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.233.174.228 (talk) 01:06, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

I realized that, but the New York Times articles from the 1970s that I consulted to write this article said that he was celebrating the Prophet's Birthday, I dont know what else to make of it DigiBullet 11:38, 20 November 2005 (UTC)


 * I concur, religious innovations such as celebrating a Prophet's birthday is typically forbidden in Saudi Arabia. The simplest explanation would be that the NYT writer didn't know this, after all, they didn't have Wikipedia. :) However, according to Wikipedia, Sunni's believe Prophet Mohammed was born on 12th of Rabi'-ul-Awwal, which happens to be the 25th of March in 1975 (with a small probability of error). It's possible they had the Prophet's birthday in mind, or it was just coincidental that a town-hall meeting was held on the same day, but as far as I know celebrations are never thrown. But kind of a moot point now, since that bit has been removed.--Fshafique (talk) 01:44, 10 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Apparently, Wikipedia already has an article on this celebration: Eid-e-Milad. And rightly enough Saudi Arabia does not support it, and its religious establishment forbids it.

I suggest that people check out www.alhabibali.org to see what kind of bid'a Mawlid al-Sharif our Habeeb salAllaho alayhi wa alihi wa salam is. Also check out the website of Shaykh Abdul Ghaffar al-Shareef of Kuwait. He is among the head of the Awqaf there. A major Sunni scholar. He has all your queries answered in fatawa as he is an authorized Sunni Mufti. mashaAllah —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.233.174.228 (talk) 01:09, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Allowance
...his $3500 monthly allowance (%15,400/week in 2014 dollars, $800,000/year),... Doesn't make sense and I'm not sure how to fix it. $800,000 ÷ 12 = $66,667 and $15,400 X 52 would come to $800,800, so the % is probably a typo of the key next to $ (which I corrected in the middle of editing this comment). Using the inflation calculator at: http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/ $3500 in 1975 would be equivalent to just over $15,400 in 2014, favoring $3500 as the weekly rather than the monthly 1975 allowance. The fact that ($3500 ÷ 7) X 30 = $15,000 is probably just a coincidence. ☺ Dick Kimball (talk) 12:27, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

What is his date of birth - 1944 or 1947? Both appear here — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.172.214.133 (talk) 14:07, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

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