Talk:False awakening

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Has anyone read, Ursula Le Guin's, The Lathe Of Heaven? The False Awakening, seems to be what the main character George Orr is experiencing. He seems to have the capacity to do Lucid dreaming, only he does not have control, and he changes reality from dream to dream. It seems possible that he is in the state of false awakening and thinks that he is awake when he is not. The book was written in the 1970's and projects into the future (our now) What do you think about it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.72.140.25 (talk • contribs) 30 May 2005

Popular References
I enjoy the 'pop culture' part of interesting topics such as this. Does someone want to do some research and start a list of popular references to false awakenings? (songs, tv, film etc)

I can remember one Calvin and Hobbes strip right now ... he gets out of bed, dressed, eats breakfast and trudges out to the curb to go to school .. and then wakes up. cheater (talk) 23:17, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fs-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com%2F736x%2F2d%2Ffa%2Fba%2F2dfabafe12bffd2246565fa84d36009c--lucid-dreaming-cartoon-quotes.jpg&f=1

This has been used in a number of films. I can only recall the start of Star Trek: First Contact I think it was had Picard waking from a dream, only to wake up again. phocks (talk) 04:15, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

In the first plotline of the comic book Sandman, the main character Dream (or Morpheus, etc. The King of Dreams.) punishes someone with eternal false awakening, essentialy. Krilia (talk) 23:28, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Could Echo's "Attic nightmare" in the Dollhouse episode "The Attic" be considered such a false awakening? --V2Blast (talk) 05:13, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

How dare you guys... you've all neglected a very important episode of Spongebob Squarepants! The episode is called "Doing Time", and involves Mrs. Puff's false awakenings (although it isn't clear if she is ever sleeping. She just kind of fades out in the middle of being awake... I think...?) However, I might be able to find it in myself to forgive you guys since you included the Rugrats episode. Very good article in all :) Peglegpenguin (talk) 23:11, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

How could anyone forget Inception? Brony Empire, yea (talk) 05:52, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Am I missing something obvious or really no one has thought of Alice's Adventures in Wonderland? It looks to me as a good example of continuum 89.216.128.90 (talk) 22:37, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

Accuracy of this line
"Like a lucid dream, the dreamer can think very clearly during a false awakening. " What if a person normally can't think very clearly upon awakening? I mean, if a false awakening is governed by a person's subconscious sense of reality, wouldn't a person's false awakening stay true to reality and have the person thinking groggily, almost as limited as when still normally asleep?
 * A false awakning may last many long minutes, the morning rituals can take you all thwe way to work. so although you may usually feel a little disoriented in the mornings, this line IS accurate. -- Procrastinating@ talk2me 09:10, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

'Unwonted' versus 'unwanted' in Celia Green quote
Please note, the correct form is 'unwonted'; I have checked it against the original, in Green, Lucid Dreams, 1968, p.121.Ranger2006 14:36, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Further on ‘unwonted’ versus ‘unwanted’: ‘unwonted’ means ‘out of the ordinary’(wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn) or ‘unaccustomed’ (www.mindmagi.demon.co.uk/Bacon/reference/glossary.htm ) so makes sense here, as well as being what is in the original text.Ranger2006

Reading
Is there a citation on the not being able to read in dreams thing? I could swear I have done it as part of a false awakening. --Isra1337 11:58, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

I don't think I have ever read in a dream, I've looked at a book and known what it said, but the process of reading wasn't there. More specifically, i remember vividly having a dream about a roller coaster, and i was trying to read the instruction manual to it, but the words were all blurred, i tried to open my eyes further and this resulted in me waking up.. weird. Don't know if the same sort of thing would happen in a false awakening. (i've had a few false awakenings but they were all fairly surreal - like a platform game to get downstairs to breakfast - good fun though.) 213.48.15.234 12:34, 23 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Reader note : I reguarly read in dreams, where I see entire sentences etc, so I can verify that this "purportedly reading in dreams is difficult or impossible" line is incorrect.   I remember as a child watching an animated cartoon of Batman where Batman was lost in a dream and he realised when he couldnt read - and everything blurred.  The cartoon explained that it was impossible to read in a dream.  I for years thought that was a fact that was made up for the show, only to find that it is a common misbelief.
 * I regularly read in dreams, too - not long books, but little blurbs, like I'd have the Sporting News and read in "transactions" aboutsome baseball team promoting an 82-year-old shortstop, or something. Perhaps this is a type of dream like lucid dreaming that not everyone has - like not everyone dreams in full color, from what I understand, yet I do.

I also regularly read in dreams, and from what I read in this article it is spot on -in fact I laughed out loud because it's so true. I've read whole paragraphs only to re read them and have them say somthing entirely different. also random letters, numbers and symbols pop up in odd places. I've spoke about this with my family who all experience dreaming differently. my mum for instance, never 'sees' any visual image in dreams, let alone read text. 60.242.72.197 (talk) 13:52, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Hello Isra1337!

The wiki page of False Awakenings gives a brief summary of what False Awakenings are and how they are followed by a lucid dream. I find that the Pop Culture section helps the reader fully understand that the dreamer dreams they are awake and thinks they are carrying out their normal routine until they actually awake up and realize they were dreaming during the duration of their rituals. However, this page is lacking a lot of information about how the brain responds during a dream, as the brain is most active at night. It is understandable that a lot of information is simply unable to be obtained as dreams are a very subjective topic.

The quotation that user Diza provides fits very well with your question though it is not cited. A dream does not abide by rules; anything can be done. “The dreamer may be able to exert some control over the dream” (Lucid Dreaming, 2005) and these lucid dreams are sometimes helpful for therapy and treatment for nightmares and sleeping problems (Zadra, Donderi, &Pihl, 1992). For the page itself, I feel the explanation of ‘continuum’ would benefit more in the section about ‘types of false awakenings.’ The addition of factors that may contribute to the occurrence of False Awakenings, such as physical, mental, emotional and biological factors can help the reader narrow down why this may be occurring. Even better, if a study from professionals or therapists who have previously done research in this field before with correlational data was included, more connections can be made with not only lucid dreams but other types of dreams in that same fashion.

These additions would greatly impact the wiki page and perhaps draw a bigger audience and spark a new interest.

-User: treese28

References

Lucid dreaming. University of Montreal, Hôpital du Sacré-Coeur de Montréal, Centre de recherché. Retrived March 11, 2005, from http://www.crhsc.umontreal.ca/dreams.ld.htm.

Weiten, W. & McCann, D. (2010). Psychology: Themes and Variations. Toronto, Ontario. Nelson Education Ltd.

Zarda, A. L.,& Donderi, D. C., & Pihl, R. O. (1992). Efficacy of lucid dream induction for lucid and non-lucid dreamers. Dreaming, 2, 85-89.

--64.229.96.54 (talk) 00:19, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

re deletion of unreferenced sentence
I have deleted the sentence flagged as in need of citation, as it is not clear what evidence could be produced for the assertion the sentence contained.Ranger2006 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 14:20, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Music video all about false awakening
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z_Ys3BO_4M Never heard of the guy myself but great material for the popular culture section as the video doesn't just show the general idea it also conveys the feeling and lots of experiencer-only details perfectly. Please add him if you know him enough to add a sentence or two! 78.148.57.124 (talk) 15:08, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Why..
Why does the article say that a false awakening can be called inception? It makes no sense! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.192.210.5 (talk) 19:26, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

I agree that this makes no sense. I could find nothing to back up this use of the word "inception." Notaste4accounting (talk) 07:04, 2 December 2010 (UTC)


 * it was a added a few days ago, but i'm removing it for now. i'm guessing someone got it from Inception (film): "In the film Inception the dream-within-a-dream and the false awakening are central to the plot" k kisses 03:11, 3 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I have removed it (again?) "Inception" in the movie refers to the artificial implantation of an "original" idea via dreams, and has nothing to do with false awakenings as such. Ironwolf (talk) 12:10, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

Realism and unrealism
Under the "Realism and unrealism" section is the line "oddly, normal types of foods gone missing." - This neither makes sense or has a reference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.208.53.205 (talk) 06:46, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

What about an actual "dream within a dream".
By that, I mean one where the sleeper is having a dream, and in the dream itself they go to bed and "fall asleep" (assuming they don't wake up, as falling asleep in a dream sometimes leads to actually waking up) and go into a deeper dream, in other words, dreaming that they are asleep and dreaming, then eventually "wake up" back into the original dream. A false awakening is not a dream within a dream because the sleeper did not fall asleep into another dream and wake back up into that one. Has there been much discussion and research on this subject? And this really wouldn't be a false awakening because the sleeper fell asleep from the original dream and returned back to it, they did not start in another dream and dream about waking up. Often, these deeper layer dreams are extremely surreal and abstract (it's as if the subconscious mind is trying to simulate its own creations) and make about as much sense as Wackyland from the Warner Bros cartoons. I try to tell people about this and they always assume I mean a false awakening, which means that it's apparently a not very well-known phenomenon. MVillani1985 (talk) 01:02, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

AT false awakening
Hi wikipedia. In the episode "King Worm" of Adventure Time, Finn has a false awakening, as does Jake. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jawshewah (talk • contribs) 14:39, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

A possible reason for this phenomenon?
All my life (nearly 60 now) I have had dreams. They are lucid dreams - I know I am dreaming, it is like going to the movies. Except for once. At that time, I had what this article describes as a Type 2 False Awakening.

I woke up, from a mildly unpleasant bad dream, then realized to my horror that it was not a bad dream, that it was actually happening. Then I woke up again, this time for real. It had only been a dream, and a false awakening. Nothing had actually happened.

With the benefit of hindsight and much subsequent medical investigation and treatment, I now realize that this would have occurred very close to the time that my cancer would have started growing. For 30 years now I have wondered whether this was a coincidence. Or not.

It is embarrassing but I do wet my bed from time to time because of false awakenings.
Its that caused by sleep deprivation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.241.145.156 (talk) 03:37, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

references and example
Hi, thank you for creating a wikipedia page about the false wakening. It is really a interesting topic. I understand that this topic might not be popular and researches about this topic are not easily found. However, I think more specific references from research would be pretty helpful for reader to understand the concept. By giving only the name of celebrity like ceclia green might not fully illustrate the point of view comprehensively. It might be a little be vague to show the power and credibility of the celebrity as a reference. Also showing the summary about a movie or a novel you mentioned about having the example of false wakening might be useful for reader to fully understand the topic.Here are my suggestions. Rayray411 (talk) 19:16, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Educational assignment, March 2024
User:Rathod Dharmarajsinh has mentioned that they are editing Wikipedia as part of "a wikiproject of medical related under guidance of 'Amin Azzam'" and that this is a "medical students related project", and other students have joined in editing the article, so I'm flagging this here. The group's tutor does not appear to have created a course page as is recommended. --Belbury (talk) 19:34, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

PEER REVIEW
Add your thoughts about the edited contents.... Rathod Dharmarajsinh (talk) 11:59, 13 April 2024 (UTC)