Talk:False sunset

Incorrect information
There are so many things wrong with this article that I hardly know where to start. Listing the most blatant errors:
 * 1) What is described is evidently a type of ice crystal halo: a subsun, lower solar pillar (http://www.atoptics.co.uk/halo/lowpill.htm) or a lower tangent arc (http://old.meteoros.de/arten/ee06e.htm); not a sundog. While related (also being a type of ice halo), sundogs only appear to the left and right of the sun, never at the top or bottom.
 * 2) The picture (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1b/False_Sunset.jpg) does not show any of the halo types described in 1. The "tiny sun" touching the horizon (I'm assuming that's what we're supposed to look at) is likely a camera artefact caused by internal reflection inside the lens, not an atmospheric phenomenon.
 * 3) The same is even more obvious in the picture shown in the Facebook link (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=209742399047996&set=a.209742102381359.52332.184393924916177&type=1&theater). Ice halos are always "fuzzy", never would they appear as a clearly defined image of the sun like this. This is very clearly a camera artefact, or maybe even a simple reflection in a double glazed window.

Not going into the numerous other small errors, but this article needs to be thoroughly rewritten. The same, though to a lesser extent, goes for False sunrise. Drabkikker (talk) 00:12, 29 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Revised the article, although I'm still not convinced of the legitimacy of the term "false sunset". Sources badly needed. Drabkikker (talk) 14:27, 10 February 2015 (UTC)