Talk:Family Guy/Archive 6

=Jan-March=

Lois' Accent
The article states:

''Peter is an Irish-American Catholic with a thick Rhode Island / Eastern Massachusetts accent. His wife Lois, who has a similar accent, is a stay-at-home mom and piano teacher, and is a member of the Pewterschmidt family of wealthy Protestant socialites. ''

However, Lois' accent is not the same as Peter's. She has a New York accent, which is oddly (and, one assumes, intentionally) inappropriate for her social background. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.99.86.148 (talk) 22:29, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

It says 'similar', not 'exactly the same'. The Rhode Island and New York accents are quite 'similar', but not 'exactly the same'. NIN (talk) 14:11, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

And your point is? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 2L84UBB (talk • contribs) 06:38, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

My point is that the article is wrong. Lois' accent is not "similar" to Peter's; it's from a completely different part of the country. There doesn't seem to be a way to edit the article, or I would make the correction. (Sorry, I forgot to sign Saturday's comment.) 76.99.86.148 (talk) 01:11, 23 January 2008 (UTC)essex9999

Similarly, Stewie's accent is listed as "upper-class English" when it's in fact a similar but quite American Boston Brahmin accent - his article confirms this. I'd correct it, but the page is semi-protected. 82.20.42.107 (talk) 03:44, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Do you think it might just be possible that the accents are those that the actors tried out and thought 'hey, that really works!' - I think everyone is analysing this a tad too far... Editorcomm (talk) 22:04, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

I can only tell the difference between two American accents: Texan (and every state around it: Louisiana, Alabama... they all sound the same) and New York. Rhode Island is RIDICULOUSLY similar to the New York accent, in my head at least. NIN (talk) 19:01, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

"Okay, you are analizing it way to much" said the guy who got into an agrument about Stan Tompson. Listen, I believe that it was based off of a rhode island (and possibly jewish???) accent and that it's changed so much, it doesn't sound like it anymore. The same with Stewie's accent. Started british, changed so much, not anymore. And besides, they probably tried what sounded best with the character. If you watch the original hand-animated piolet that Seth did, Alex Borstien used her normal voice for Lois, and it sounded perfect for how she looked. Same with Lois now. It's perfect for how she looks.--BrianGriffin-FG (talk) 19:59, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

I think this is a cultural bias... Rhode Island and New York accents are "similar", just as Saskatchewan and Alberta accents are similar. If you can't tell the difference between Sask and Alta, but think Rhose Island and New York are vastly different, then you're just too close to the problem. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.231.199.188 (talk) 17:49, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Guest Stars
I'm not sure who I should ask, but is there a way a link to the List of Family Guy guest stars could be added to the Cast section of the Family Guy page. Thank you.71.102.226.228 (talk) 00:32, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Added. Thanks. / edg ☺ ☭ 15:38, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Rating
Is Family Guy rated M and MA15+? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Australiaaz (talk • contribs) 20:53, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
 * According to IMDB, episodes have been rated as M, MA15+ and PG in Australia. Nishkid64 (talk) 07:11, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
 * The point of the common rating chart is to list the rating the show "usually" gets, not to list every rating the show has ever received. Infobox TV ratings recommends alternatives to using this template. / edg ☺ ☭ 15:10, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Feature Length Movie?
I was up here like a month ago, and there were a couple of interviews with the creator about like if he'll ever make a movie of Family Guy, why arn't they up now?Onepiece226 (talk) 02:48, 30 January 2008 (UTC)Onepiece226

Because its not happening any time soon. There are no credible sources that say the film WILL be made. Even Seth's interviews must be taken lightly, he's known to joke. The feature film section was taken down because it was based on fan speculation and not hard evidence. Ask any other good editor on this article and the response will generally be the same. Milonica (talk) 02:56, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Oh ok, well since he did say them, wouldn't it be better to put them back up, but by saying that it may or may not be true on account of he jokes alot?Onepiece226 (talk) 03:20, 30 January 2008 (UTC)Onepiece226

You could try putting it back up, with sources and such but chances are it will be taken down. Plus, you can't (or you're at least not supposed to) put original research (i.e. stuff created by your own opinions) on Wikipedia. I would refrain from reinstating the section, since its more fan speculation than truth. If it is put up, I will take it down for that sole reason. Its not relevant enough yet to exist. Milonica (talk) 03:29, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Well I understand, but why would you tell me to try and put it back up, if you would just take it down?Onepiece226 (talk) 03:30, 30 January 2008 (UTC)Onepiece226

Bad wording and writing in a hurry mainly. Plus, this issue has been beaten to death before. While I like any other fan of the show would like to see a movie, it just isn't going to happen any time soon. Milonica (talk) 03:45, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Besides who needs an official Family Guy movie? We already have one. TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 18:17, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Ehhh that wasen't a real movie! that was just 3 episodes meshed together!Onepiece226 (talk) 19:09, 31 January 2008 (UTC)Onepiece226

Of course it was and it still is. Maybe it was written and broadcasted like three episode but that doesn't change the fact that it was a movie. Movies can be made in all short of ways. This movie was made by combining the episodes. If it wasn't a real movie, it would be allowed in a volume, but it's not, so it is a movie. Maybe it was originally intended to be a movie, but it is. Movies don't have to be in movie theaters to be official movies. My proof that it is a movie is in the article, unless you can prove that it was never meant to be and isn't a movie, it is the official Family Guy movie. Maybe they will be making a remake, but that doesn't change the fact that this will always be the first Family Guy movie. Look at the categories, it is categorized as films, aka movies. TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 17:57, 1 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Okay one, I think it wasnt an offical movie, more like a "special TV movie." And the fact that it wasn't on a DVD set doesn't mean a thing. Blue Harvest wasn't a movie, but it got its own DVD and it probably won't be on a DVD set. And two, I believe that in the interview in question, Seth Mac said that he wants to do 10 production seasons of Family Guy, and then do a series of movies when the show ends. And I don't really think he was joking. --BrianGriffin-FG (talk) 14:47, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

PTV
It should be added that Stewie runs into Homer at the end of the title sequence causing Homer to crash to the ground and then Peter to appear and say who's that regarding Homer.208.107.168.154 (talk) 02:25, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

No, it shouldn't. There'd be no point.

K00bine (talk) 21:48, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

There is a point and the only one that is there is the friendly rivalry between the Family Guy and Simpsons production camps.96.3.72.93 (talk) 02:39, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

i think it should be mentioned in the episodes section. american dad had a crossover section and i think the simpsons should aswel. also peter griffin appeared invarious episodes of the simpsons, like 'The Italian Bob' where peter is in the book of most wanted criminals and that halloween episode where u see peter as one of homers clones. TranscendantX (talk) 06:35, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
 * It's already mentioned in the article about Peter Griffin. TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 12:41, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

How many writers are Irish Americans
Does anyone know how many of the writers of this show are irish or have irish american heritage.

This show postulates three ideas about the irish: 1. The irish are a bunch of drunks. 2. The irish are stupid. 3. The irish are racist.

I was wondering if irish people or people of irish heritage have written their thoughts on the irish into the script of the family guy or is it some non-irish people who have prejudice against the irish. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.69.215.168 (talk) 00:39, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Maybe you should check out the creators last name--are you irish?76.191.200.201 (talk) 06:53, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I'm definitly Irish and I really don't think it matters if the writers are Irish or not. I think it's pretty funny. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.224.167.166 (talk) 16:57, 26 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I cannot recall if I have heard this for Family Guy or not, but it's common for comedy show writers to be more comfortable making fun of their own ethnicities. I imaging it possible that this public pronouncement of in-group status is encouraged (by perhaps the networks) to mollify the easily-offended. / edg ☺ ☭ 17:05, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

I couldn't care less. NIN (talk) 19:03, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Cleveland Spin-off
I am not so sure what to think about this, but there this spin-off might not be truthful given the relationship between Seth and FOX. The only reason why Seth McFarland is attached is because he created the character and that is something to keep in mind.96.3.72.93 (talk) 02:45, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Chris Griffin inspiration -- Ted Levine
"Levine has a distinctive voice which is best described as powerfully deep and uniquely gravelly. In a January 12, 2006 interview on The Late Late Show (CBS), actor Seth Green credited Levine as the inspiration for the voice of his character Chris Griffin on Family Guy." (from the Ted Levine article here) where could this best be placed in the Family Guy and/or Seth Green articles; I think it's interesting. 199.214.28.100 (talk) 18:28, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Stewie's Accent
"Stewie, a diabolical child with adult mannerisms who speaks fluently with an upper-class English accent"

Does he really? I would strongly disagree; Stewie most definitely has an american accent... MHDIV ɪŋglɪʃnɜː(r)d  ( Suggestion? | wanna chat? ) 20:12, 17 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Stewie's accent is definitely not American (at least nothing contemporary). Nor is his word selection, usually. Dp76764 (talk) 20:51, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Just because it's not American doesn't make it English, I completely agree with Englishnerd, it most definately is not an English accent. Muleattack (talk) 09:18, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Didn't I see somewhere that it's intended to mimic Rex Harrison? Claude (talk) 17:57, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Maybe you did, but it would only count if it was reliable source. TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 17:59, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Since there is no reliable source to support either the claim of an English accent or refute it should the statement not just be removed? Muleattack (talk) 14:09, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Agreed. TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 14:20, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

No, it was based on Rex Harrison. I recall hearing Seth MacFarlane saying that it was based on "an evil Rex Harrison" in a DVD feature (a commentary or featurette) in one of the DVDs on one of the first two DVD sets. --BrianGriffin-FG (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 14:34, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Does everyone in the family understand Stewie? I was under the impression that that was not the case. Anyway, he speaks with an American accent, albeit upper class (Pewterschmidt). I think that's the point - he sounds like old money. Editorcomm (talk) 06:34, 5 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Why do Aussies always mix up American and British accents? In answer to your question: Stewie_Griffin  Dp76764 (talk) 17:00, 5 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you for that answer. I get it now (yuk yuk yuk).. how come Americans assume they are always correct? No, seriously, he has an American accent (Boston?). Either that or it is an American actor doing a really bad job of a British accent. Just to clarify, I was actually born and lived the first half of my illustrious life in the UK (St Kilda, Scotland). I KNOW a British accent when I hear one. My wife is from Chelsea, my best mate is from Manchester, and my dog is from the US (American Pitbull)...  the accents I get mixed up on is Japanese and Korean...  Editorcomm (talk) 22:11, 5 May 2008 (UTC)


 * But have you been to the US? That is by no means an American accent.  I was in Boston just a couple months ago and Stewie sounds nothing like the Bostonians (unlike Peter, who definitely has a US/New England area accent).  I think the other option is closer to the mark: an American actor doing a bad job on a British accent.  Accent aside, it's also worth noting that Stewie's word choice also seems to be an imitation (or mixture) of British (ie: poppycock, bloody, brilliant, etc).  For the article though, I think someone needs to find a reference that discusses this (maybe on a DVD commentary?). Dp76764 (talk) 00:07, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Why is this still being discussed here? Shouldn't it be discussed on Stewie's talk page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheBlazikenMaster (talk • contribs)

Okay, It was supposed to sound like a british accent. I have heard Seth sayb that it was based off of a british accent, and it has become diffrent enough from the original voice, where he doesn't sound british anymore.--BrianGriffin-FG (talk) 19:50, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

AIDS Song
The AIDS song, mentioned in the article is not done in a 'classical style' as mentioned in the article. It is done in a barbershop style - please change this section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.81.18.30 (talk) 22:38, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for pointing this out. I'm guessing it is just a case of someone overusing the word classic to mean "old". I changed this to "Musical revue fashion". While these characters are often called "Barbershop quartet", I think there is background music in this scene, so I thing this is the correct inclusive term. / edg ☺ ☭ 18:38, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Chicken Fight
There should be a segment in this article about the ongoing fight sequences between Peter and the giant chicken; ie, background, episode list, fight locations, etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.57.243.10 (talk) 23:50, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
 * The giant chicken is covered on Peter Griffin and List of Family Guy characters. If you want minutely detailed information, there's . / edg ☺ ☭ 00:14, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

=April-June=

Why was the information about when the show started and was brought back removed?
TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 14:30, 1 April 2008 (UTC)


 * If you mean this edit, that information was excessive detail for the lede section. Someone has these dates crammed awkwardly into the infobox, but it might be better in the History section. / edg ☺ ☭ 18:00, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Stewie's Dialog in the Theme Song
I have listened to the theme song on a lot of the videos I have, I have made an MP3 file with Stewie CLEARLY saying effin and laugh. I don't know where I can upload it or what... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.51.67.43 (talk) 23:39, 7 April 2008 (UTC)


 * That might be a legitimate fair use, since there is no way we can reliably discuss how it sounds like "effin" despite claims to the contrary by the producers. It should be an Ogg vorbis file since Wikipedia no longer supports MP3; the episode & season should be indicated (since it changes), and the Non-free use rationale template (details) should give the reason this is needed. Let me know if you need help with this. / edg ☺ ☭ 07:38, 8 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I can provide an Ogg file for this purpose but I've never uploaded sound files before so wouldn't feel comfortable doing it. The episodes I used were "Death Has A Shadow" (season 1, episode 1) and Peter Griffin, Husband, Father...Brother (season 3, episode 14). Karsini (talk) 17:46, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

I have listened to the theme song, well, my whole life pretty much, and I have always heard "laugh and cry," not "effin' cry." I even made crappy recordings of a few of the songs, including the theme song, and even on that I hear "laugh~". Also, at the end of Brian Sings and Swings, Frank Sanatra Jr. sings the theme song, and he sings "laugh~" pretty clearly. --BrianGriffin-FG (talk) 14:34, 8 May 2008 (UTC)


 * It's supposed to be "laugh and cry", but they had changed the song at one point to make the "laugh" clearer as many people thought they heard "effin" and it offended some people. They later went back to the "effin" sounding version for whatever reason —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.126.188.107 (talk) 07:30, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Why is Seth Macfarlane's link missing from the article?
Couldn't help but notice that while all of the other cast members' names link to their respective Wikipages, Seth Macfarlane's does not..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seth_Macfarlane

Any ideas?

Crutledge (talk) 15:28, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * But he is linked, from "Created by" and the first paragraph of the article. TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 16:24, 10 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, those two are right next to each other, so it would be too redundant to link both. Cromulent Kwyjibo (talk) 16:32, 10 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Ah! Sorry I missed that, you're absolutely right that would definately fall under the pervue of the Department of Redundancy Department. Crutledge (talk) 04:45, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Pinball Machine Section.
Seems like an eyesore to the main article, can this please be put on its own article? --Milonica (talk) 01:44, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I can't see the point of making a 1 line stub, it's unlikely to be expanded.Silent52 (talk) 05:26, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

In the infobox....
For the several past days Seth has been linked on the other three unnecessary places. It's what we call overlinking, I can't think of any reasonable hidden message right now, but it's obvious that one is needed. It has to be civil and welcoming. I can only think of bad faith DON'Ts, and we don't wanna scare the newcomers away, so help on a civil and welcoming hidden message that informs about why it shouldn't be linked would be nice. Thanks. TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 23:08, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

There are more Family Guy books
"I Married a Village Idiot", and "Peter Griffin's Guide to the Holidays", as well as individual character books, and a Stewie college journal. I just wanted to point these out since only two publications are documented. I'll try to make one, but if others want to help, please create listings for the others. 76.124.165.253 (talk) 12:23, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

resurrected twice
in the intro it says family guy was resurrected twice, i dont understand what it means by this, it can't mean it was canceled twice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.156.172.58 (talk) 13:24, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Acually, it was canceled twice. It was cancled first after it's second season, and then brought back by a shift in power at FOX, and fan outcry. It was then cancled after its third season, and then brought back by high raitings on Adult Swim and big DVD sales. (In which Seth MacFarlane joked in "Life After Film School", they "petitioned with their checkbooks.")--BrianGriffin-FG (talk) 19:53, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Overseas Animation
Why isn't it mentioned that this cartoon isn't animated here in the USA? I visited this article just to see if it was because all i hear is that the creator went to art school so i naturally thought he was doing the animations. --Ericg33 (talk) 06:53, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

The creator confirms in the DVD commentaries that the animation is done in South Korea. I'm sure there is a text reference somewhere out there confirming this. Beingzero (talk) 08:17, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Someone include that info here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ericg33 (talk • contribs) 21:48, 9 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes it is done in S. Korea, when Seth was on Conan O'Brian's talk show recently, they discussed this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.126.188.107 (talk) 07:33, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * By "recently", how recently do you mean? Specific date would be nice. TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 09:22, 16 May 2008 (UTC

Why doesn't?
Why doesnt certain information appear in the info boxes even when edited?
 * Because it's not in the template. TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 00:18, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

But certain things like, Quagmire's wife Joan and Clevelands wives Loretta and Donna and his step-kids belong in the info boxes. There is no arguement they belong there! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.226.221.176 (talk) 03:09, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, that's a problem with the template, not the articles. If you have problems with the template, the best thing to do is to leave comments on: template talk:Family Guy character TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 10:38, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Slight tidbit of info
When it says that as of Season 4, the family don't sing "He's a family guy," it's slightly innacurate as after rewatching the DVD's, I've found it is on the first 3 episodes, but not on Don't Make Me Over or any episodes after. Just a little note ^^ Darthyoggi (talk) 13:55, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Addition request
Please add "When Stewie learns that Brian intends on deserting the army, he tells him that 'they'll come after you, like Peter went after that hockey coach.'" to the second paragraph of the Meta-humor section. This is the line "that is clearly intended to set up a cutaway gag" and its inclusion will improve the quality of the paragraph. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.146.34.115 (talk) 12:18, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Link to Polish Wikipedia
77.253.22.150 (talk) 13:52, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Article on polish Wikipedia was moved from "http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Głowa_rodziny" to "http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Guy"

WTF is with this cartoon?
The people who write this cartoon are obsessed with killing people and other extreme violence, its disgusting and I'm actually a fan of this cartoon, but a lot of it is just garbage. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hmmm2323 (talk • contribs) 03:12, 23 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I mostly agree. Many editors (mostly anon, a few regular) of Family Guy articles tend to log plot details that appeal to their personal obsessions, rather than trying to develop an encyclopedia article. Please feel free to make improvements! / edg ☺ ☭ 16:12, 23 June 2008 (UTC)