Talk:Family Opera Initiative

Articles for deletion/Family opera initiative
I think it is absurd to delete this page or consider so. The artists working on these projects are major names. The current project, ANIMAL TALES, is the last significant work by George Plimpton. Grethe Barrett Holby is the Founder of AOP and a 15 year veteran of the industry. Eugenio Carmi, Eve Beglarian, Kitty Brazelton: these are all artists of weight. I hope a few of the bloggers here come with some knowledge of contemporary American music. Ridiculous to delete. Tipok (talk) 21:31, 27 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia is not a blog. It is also not a provider of free advertising. As it is, this article only barely escaped speedy deletion on the grounds of blatant advertising and blatant copyright violation. Taking an article to a Articles for deletion discussion instead of speedily deleting it allows experienced editors without a conflict of interest to assess the article's potential for viability and address its problems – as has been the case here. See Guide to deletion for more. Voceditenore (talk) 07:19, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Future editing
I've re-written this article entirely to remove the promotional tone and copy-pasted wording from the subject's official web site and associated blogs and press releases. It also now conforms to the Wikipedia Manual of Style and has proper references to establish the subject's notability. I'm pretty sure this article will now survive the AfD. Assuming it does, future editors, especially those who are affiliated in any way with Family Opera Initiative or one of its collaborators, must adhere to the following guidelines when editing it. Voceditenore (talk) 08:41, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
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