Talk:Famous catholics

Hitler
User:Alibabs added this to a "Reference" heading, as "proof" that Hitler was a Catholic.

The Catholic Prayer page

User:209.74.9.95 added:

Hitler was not Catholic but atheist

Either way, I don't think someone's personal geocities page really counts as an authoritative source.

The heading says that the list includes people who are "Catholic", though they may not be "practising", and may not be "role-models", so on that basis, I guess Hitler counts, as he was baptised a Catholic and was certainly famous.

I think you'll find that Hitler's "religion" was "National Socialism" - he often made references to "God" in his speeches and writings, though it's probably not the "God" that most Catholics (or any other Christians) would recognise. But I don't think you can say that he was an atheist, so I removed 209.74.9.95's comment, which doesn't belong on the article page anyway.

Camillus  talk | contribs 13:33, 20 December 2005 (UTC)


 * I did not add that as proof that Hitler was a catholic, I think the link was in place before, and I do not think that a Geocities page can be used as an authoritative resource. Hitler was raised as a catholic but whether his actions in later life have anything to do with his religion can at best be debatable. In mein Kampf Hitler states: "I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord..". This link provides quite a balanced look at this issue .Alibabs 23:11, 20 December 2005 (UTC)


 * To be honest, I wouldn't site the "straightdope.com" page as an authoritative source either - again, it's just one guy's personal opinion. However, even with those reservations, if you look at it, it seems to confirm my assertion that Hitler's Relgion was "Nazism", and the site even suggests that when Hitler talked about God, he actually had himself in mind. None of this is really here or there anyway, as this article is just a list of people who are in some way associated with Catholicism, either by baptism (even if they don't profess it in adult life), or by choice, such as Jeb Bush. [[Image:Flag of Ireland.svg|20px]] Camillus [[Image:Flag of Scotland.svg|20px]] talk | contribs 00:09, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

rename page
This page should be renamed "Famous Catholics"mtz206 01:40, 27 January 2006 (UTC)