Talk:Fancy mouse

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https://www.mdpi.com/2076-2615/7/12/88/pdf

Mouse actually are Social animal.In fact, most laboratories and scientific institutions think keep mice in pairs if possible to meet animal welfare.Because all social animals should live with their kind. just like female mice, living alone can actually cause mental harm to male mice.

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This page now has a lot of correct information and I think the banner can be removed. However it does still have some mistakes in the way that it doesn't talk about fur types - like the satin, texel, hairless, standard, etc. and it also suggests you 'keep mice in pairs if possible'. Never attempt to keep males in pairs, as the risk is simply FAR to big. That said, it does talk about 'newspaper being safe' as it soy based ink, but this is actually only confirmed true in the USA and I don't think we can safely say that it stands true in other countries.

It also says mice are 'inexpensive' and fails to mention that they do need expensive vet care that can rise and cost even 100+ dollars. A friend of mine had a mouse cost them 900$ and eventually had to be put down due to a skin disease. I don't think it's healthy to say these animals are inexpensive. They might cost 6$ in a pet store, but in reality, they can be more expensive than a cat or dog.

Good article
I have edited the part of the page that referred to a "different process of natural selection operating in tame mice than in their wild cousins" or something to that point. Obviously, natural selection - -selection by the blind forces of nature -- operates on wild animals. However, people breeding different colours and patterns of mice according to their own preferences does not constitute any form of 'natural selection'. This is 'artificial selection', and it has absolutely nothing to do with the 'survival of the fittest'; rather, it refers to the 'selective reproduction of the prettiest' - Tanuchenka. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.224.190.200 (talk) 16:06, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

I think a term better than "artificial selection" is "selective breeding."Thoralor (talk) 10:01, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

With a little elbow grease, we could get this article up to good status in no time.  young  american (talk) 21:33, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Wikiproject
I have proposed the creation of Wikiproject Pocket pets, if interested, please visit the proposal page. thanks! VanTucky 05:05, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Newspaper bedding
... mice can be given newspaper for nesting, as the ink is soy based and nontoxic

I'm a little uncomfortable with this steaatement -- are you sure it applies everywhere? Or just where you buy your local? --Jquarry 09:21, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * This would be OR, so I've never included it, but my vet says that all US newspapers are safe.  young  american  (ahoy hoy) 14:29, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

While newspaper ink is now soy based rather than petroleum based, it contains many other ingredients, including formaldehyde, carbon black, cadmium, sulfur, titanium, etc. Better to play it safe and use paper and cardboard without ink on it.Thoralor (talk) 10:13, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Radiation weakness
I have found that pet mice have an incredibly low tolerance to radiation and microwaves (Energy). Even the bi product Radiation from a microwave oven can kill one (over time and in close proximity). Keep away from any source above background radiation. --Grand Whilhuff Moff Tarkin (talk) 01:47, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

picking up a mouse
picking up a mouse is best done by grabbing the base of its tail, and not by grabbing its central body mass. They're small and fragile animals; doing this can cause internal organ damage or other injury. This should be fixed.


 * The tone of that section reads like a website with advice on mouse ownership, not like an encyclopedia. It needs a major overhaul. Moderatelyaverage (talk) 18:08, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Handling
"Lowering your hand into the cage with food on your fingertips will intimidate the mouse to bite you. Soon they will get more and more social. After a while, your mouse thinks of your hand as the safest place, and will easily climb into it whether there is food on it or not." Seriously? This doesn't strike me as an encyclopaedic article. It does however strike me as a show and tell piece. 82.95.25.120 (talk) 15:45, 9 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Agreed. It needs some extensive reworking. Moderatelyaverage (talk) 18:09, 14 June 2012 (UTC)


 * That is the way they show their behaviour. As you buy young mice, they rather "pinch" than bite. After a time, the mice no longer "pinch" or bite. --95.116.66.110 (talk) 12:18, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

Obvious missing information: varieties
This needs a list of varieties or breeds (if reliable secondary sources identify them as actual breeds), under a heading or subheading such as, and including sourced descriptive information about the varieties, possibly also summaries of show/breed standards for them if such exist. After this, the following should redirect to that section: Mouse varieties, fancy mouse varieties, Mouse breeds, Fancy mouse breeds, List of mouse varieties, List of fancy mouse varieties, List of mouse breeds, List of fancy mouse breeds. Each of those should be tagged with, and all those referring to breeds also tagged with unless their status as standardized breeds is reliably sourceable after all. List of mouse varieties should be further tagged with, and later developed into a list of these pet varieties, and (in their own section) laboratory strains (several of which we have articles on, in Category:Laboratory mouse breeds. Breed should be updated to include this list.  If someone will do the first part and source a list of fancy mouse varieties, I'll be glad to take care of all the rest.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼  15:20, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

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Correct definition of muricide?
This-

Mice are naturally cautious of rats, who may kill and consume them. This mice behaviour is known as muricide (cf. Muricidal test).[8]

shouldn't that read "This rat behaviour is known as muricide..."

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-r* -rudyard (talk) 21:03, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

I love the wording “fancy mouse”
It’s amazing Ac!d B0n3z (talk) 07:22, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Proposed merge of Mus musculus domesticus into Fancy mouse
No reason for two articles. What little info is here can easily be incorporated into main article. UtherSRG (talk) 17:39, 7 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Oppose. Laboratory mice may also be Mus musculus domesticus, and the article on the Japanese house mouse mentions that there are fancy and laboratory breeds of that supposed subspecies (it is apparently a hybrid between the other two widely recognized subspecies). This article mentions early history of mice as pets in China and, and breeding efforts in Europe that involved mice imported from Japan. "Domesticus" presumably refers to the houses that house mice inhabit, not to any status as a domesticated animal (and laboratory mice are just as much domesticated). This article should not have a taxobox (fancy mouse encompasses several breeds, so a breed infobox wouldn't be appropriate either). Merging M. m. domesticus to house mouse is a better option than merging here if it is going to be merged. Plantdrew (talk) 21:02, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Oh! You're right. I was coming from a different angle and missed the other articles. - UtherSRG (talk) 00:03, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Closing, with no merge, as the proposer has withdrawn their support. Klbrain (talk) 11:40, 25 April 2024 (UTC)