Talk:Fandom (website)/Archive 6

"Brickipedia" listed at Redirects for discussion
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Growth > Community
It was said 2 weeks ago that growth changed to the community so Brandon Rhea is actually VP of Community now not VP of Growth. Please change it.Justin Oh (talk) 17:36, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Fandom/wikia consistency - also image in infobox
I get that fandom and wikia are the samething, but why are they used interchangeably in this article? Should we replace most references to wikia with fandom instead? Also, why is the image for wikia still up on the infobox? I think I might edit it DreamlessGlare (talk) 22:38, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Potential spot for controversy: Admins refusing to let owners close wikias & ownership confusion.
With the merging of Gamepedia, Fandom, Wikia, and other events having occurred, the practices of Fandom Inc have grown a lot more user hostile.

For example, the persistence and insistent refusal to close and delete Wikias. For example, the FrackinUniverse Wiki, (now hosted on Miraheze) was one such Wiki that Fandom refused to close.

They even sent a liaison by the handle of Moviesign, who basically barged their way on the Discord of the project, thoroughly acted as a middle manager or pointy haired boss, doing nothing to aid the actual project staff while annoying them in a "Stan the Salesman" sort of way; loudly making useless suggestions. Eventually, due to the annoyance they; and the entire Fandom project was provided, Moviesign was removed from the Discord and a notice put onto the Wikia once a new host had been found. It has since then been rolled back by Moviesign, in spite of having no actual authorization over the project. 2601:540:8200:25F3:C1C7:D4C9:5BD9:B58B (talk) 00:37, 19 June 2021 (UTC)


 * I like how the above post has no signature, but we're supposed to "trust them". The great irony is that many, many users on Fandom complain about their wikis being closed. People don't seem to understand that once they create a wiki on Fandom... they don't own it, Fandom does. --67.148.47.74 (talk) 17:55, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Ownership Of Wikias/Fandom
A similar case of dispute merges over the Zelda Wiki, which suffered from the blight of the Fandom/Gamepedia merger; with the ownership (as noted) being disputed. 2601:540:8200:25F3:C1C7:D4C9:5BD9:B58B (talk) 00:37, 19 June 2021 (UTC)


 * If a wiki exists on Fandom (or Gamepedia which was sold to Wikia/Fandom), Fandom owns it. Simple. Unless someone can produce a contract stating otherwise, there really isn't a dispute. --67.148.47.74 (talk) 17:55, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

An extra dot
backed by Private equity firm TPG Capital, acquired Fandom'''* .. *'[5] Miller was named Co-chairman''

(in the "2018–present: New acquisitions and inclusivity section")....just pointing out — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:6011:9600:52C0:6594:3843:DA62:C33E (talk) 05:22, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ —Dexxor (talk) 12:42, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

Criticism for monopolistic practices and exploitation of labor
This paper based on a survey conducted in 2020 criticizes Wikia/Fandom for monopolistic practices and exploiting the labor of its users. I am unsure how to put this information in the article, but I feel it is important. ~Opal of Arctic Circle System (talk) 10:49, 24 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Leave it out, that's utter bollocks. Equating voluntary participation in ad-supported online forums with labour exploitation is as absurd as it gets. — kashmīrī  TALK  15:29, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 February 2022
The note [c] in the Fandom(website) wiki refers to asari as a Japanese word, and I don’t agree. There is a verb asaru which means fishing or rummaging, and asari- is the stem of various verbs with this meaning. Entry: The name was derived from the Hawaiian word for "quick" and asari, Japanese for "rummaging search“. Suggested change: “  The name was derived from the Hawaiian word for "quick" and asari, stem of the Japanese verb asaru, "to rummage”. The information given appears to reference the following: https://mashable.com/archive/wikiasari-wikipedia-founder-launching-a-google-rival So if you prefer to just add a citation, use that. Reelmquist (talk) 05:49, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ —Dexxor (talk) 14:21, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Office address
Hi there. I'm posting this on the talk page rather than editing because a) it's semi-protected and I can't but more importantly b) I work at Fandom so I am declaring a conflict of interest. I just wanted to point out that the SF office address is over two years out of date (we left 360 Third Street in the fall of 2018). Our current office address is 130 Sutter Street, the Hallidie Building, which is listed in our privacy policy. - BrandonRhea (talk) 16:43, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
 * To be more specific now that I've added the edit request template, please change Fandom, Inc. is headquartered at 360 Third Street, in San Francisco, California. to Fandom, Inc. is headquartered at 130 Sutter Street, in San Francisco, California. Please also change Category:Financial District, San Francisco to Category:Financial District, San Francisco. - BrandonRhea (talk) 17:03, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him &#124; talk) 22:23, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
 * @BrandonRhea: FYI, I didn't change the category as it looks like you linked the same one twice? Additionally, this page should probably be edited to move it to use Fandom language, and with the new location. I don't have the permissions to edit it, though 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him &#124; talk) 22:25, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks @EpicPupper! You're right, I did link the same category twice. I meant to say it should change from Category:South of Market, San Francisco (where the old office was) to Category:Financial District, San Francisco (where the current ons is). And thanks for that link to the Wikia HQ page on the Connect Wiki, that's an old page for an event from several years ago so I'll likely just remove that page. - BrandonRhea (talk) 22:52, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

Whitewashing of "Domain and skin assimilation" section
This edit by User:RandomCanadian (which doesn't seem to have been discussed anywhere) removed the entire section of controversy about domain name and skin assimilation. I think this is inappropriate. I suggest it be restored and expanded with more current secondary sources, including: 189.206.203.42 (talk) 10:30, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
 * https://www.techspot.com/news/75179-fan-made-fallout-wiki-struggles-host-fandom-over.html
 * https://www.kotaku.com.au/2018/09/video-game-wikis-abandon-their-platform-after-year-of-problems/
 * https://kotaku.com/fallout-fans-resist-wikias-attempt-to-pivot-to-video-1804145954

As angry as I am with the bloated direction "Fandom" is taking, these sources really do not support the removed text. These grievances about stealing skin code will need to be addressed by some sort of internet historian making a secondary source, but well I just don’t expect any "reliable" publisher to want to dig that deep for legal trouble. If only there’a some other sort of wiki where we could keep this stuff up...

On the other hand, these sources DO work well with the existing section on advertisement complaints. They provide new information about the wiki-exodus-SEO problem, while elaborating on how much worse ads have gotten. Artoria2e5 🌉 01:30, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion
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Fandom Worlds VR wiped from history.
Does noone remember the Fandom.com that existed in the year 2000? They had a VR experience called Fandom Worlds that was substantial and one of the only high quality free forms of Active Worlds back then. I'm just surprised to come here and see nothing about it. It had 4 worlds(servers) that all had different themes. Anyway, the userbase was pretty large and it's a shame this was lost to time. 207.62.246.68 (talk) 23:47, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 15 April 2023
Add "literature" to part of lead giving examples of entertainment topics covered by Fandom ("i.e. literature, video games, TV series, movies, entertainers, etc."). 58.107.92.169 (talk) 20:09, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. The only potential support I can see in the article for adding literature to the opening section is a single unsourced reference to "books" in the "Services and Features" section. Can you point to a reliable source that describes Fandom as including content about books/book series/literature? --Pinchme123 (talk) 03:42, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 July 2023
I would like to add to the infobox that http://wikicities.org redirects to FANDOM. Wikicities is also the older name for FANDOM before they changed it to Wikia. StealthTrooper36 (talk) 20:25, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate.

Minecraft Wiki departure section
I will preface this by saying I am a Minecraft Wiki editor pushing its fork. There are many examples of forks, why is this in-progress fork the only one to be documented on this page? Instead of having an entire section about a random fork, I think a sentence along the lines of "This incident is cited as the reason that many wikis, including the Minecraft Wiki, forked from Fandom" would work in the above grimace incident section. We were serious about forking before that incident ever happened, though we publicly state it as one of the reasons so the statement would be correct. Or if you want a section on forking, have it describe multiple forks. I'd edit this page but it is semi-protected. Harristic (talk) 19:17, 27 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia follows and reports on what is in reliable, secondary sources (in this case PC Gamer, PCGamesN, etc.). Since the Minecraft wiki got coverage in multiple secondary sources it gets a prominent place in the Wikipedia article. If there are more sources that go into detail on other forks, let us know - but we can't describe other forks here without good sourcing. MrOllie (talk) 19:22, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
 * So you cannot source the actual discussions on the wikis (for example, the discussion pages about the fork on the Minecraft Wiki) or tweets from the wiki announcing the forks (for example, Zelda Wiki's tweet that fully details their fork and why they're forking), and instead you must source clickbait headline news articles that source those previous things anyway? How weird. But even so, there's been secondary sources written about the Zelda Wiki and Terraria Wiki forks that you can find with a simple Google search. Harristic (talk) 20:45, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Correct, we do not use forums, wikis, social media, or other forms of self published content. MrOllie (talk) 20:53, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Strange. But anyway, since these other forks have secondary sources, shouldn't there be a more general forking section that details multiple forks and why they happen? Harristic (talk) 21:20, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't know without reviewing the sources. I know you can't edit the article, but if you'd like to propose a specific section with sourcing on the talk page I'm sure someone will help you out with moving it to the article if it meets policy. MrOllie (talk) 21:24, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
 * https://www.kotaku.com.au/2018/09/video-game-wikis-abandon-their-platform-after-year-of-problems/
 * https://www.gamesradar.com/the-biggest-zelda-wiki-goes-independent-to-fight-corporate-consolidation-urging-others-to-follow-suit/
 * https://www.pcgamesn.com/terraria/wiki
 * Some sources about other wikis forking Delibirda (talk) 12:09, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 September 2023
I would like to remove a few words in this entry. BradOlsonBemidji (talk) 05:48, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. --Jasper Deng (talk) 06:12, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

Add queer wiki removal
In January 2022, Fandom announced their plans to remove all existing queer wikis, and replace them with a Fandom-managed "LGBTQIA+ wiki", which would only host established identities. The only exception was to be the Ezgender wiki, which would focus on lesser-known identities. This would notably remove the "LGBTA Wiki", known for its controversial inclusive principles, which were described by queer magazine Into as “important — and arguably invaluable, to [the queer community] and their online experience”. Fandom did not consult or seek the consent of any wiki maintainers beforehand. The announcement sparked backlash from the queer community, and a Change.org petition demanding Fandom to stop the removal of wikis garnered 3,100 e-signatures. The LGBTA and Ezgender wikis denounced Fandom and migrated to Miraheze, a non-profit wiki hosting service. By February, the LGBTA Wiki redirected to the Fandom-managed one. Its small selection of identities and use of 'medical' explanations for queer identities was criticized and considered exclusionary.

Is there any chance this situation could be added to the Controversies section? The source is Q.Digital's magazine Into, an independent secondary source which has been cited on Wikipedia many times already. https://www.intomore.com/the-internet/whats-happening-lgbtqia-wiki/ Lunyarna (talk) 20:06, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Redlink
Hey I don’t have a wikipedia account but I wanna suggest something. The redlink ChalkDrop.com should be changed to reflect the current destination, which is: https://dough.tools/. Thanks! ~Regina 2001:1970:568B:6900:F99D:C33B:50D:CB57 (talk) 01:04, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

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 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: While ChalkDrop.com.au currently redirects to dough.tools, Chalkdrop.com was an unrelated website that now serves as Fandom founder Angela Beesley Starling's husband's blog. --Ahecht ([[User talk:Ahecht|TALK

I can't edit
so I'm a registered user, but it for some reason wont let me use it. I'm on the mobile app, running Android 7. DigitalKandra (talk) 16:53, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

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 * @DigitalKandra This article is protected so that it can only be edited by confirmed users. --Ahecht ([[User talk:Ahecht|TALK


 * @Ahecht, how do I become confirmed? I have not yet read the article you linked, and I will momentarily, but any quick info you can offer would be appreciated. DigitalKandra (talk) 21:16, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
 * , your account needs to be at least four days old (it is), and made at least ten edits (you've made six). Cullen328 (talk) 21:21, 16 November 2023 (UTC)


 * I see, Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by DigitalKandra (talk • contribs) 21:24, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

FYI: Fandom blocked in Kazakhstan
I am not sure when this started, but for at least the past two weeks Fandom has been blocked in Kazakhstan, accessible only through a VPN. 95.56.65.80 (talk) 17:01, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

Browser extension
I added a mention to the browser extension to redirect users to independent wikis outside of Fandom. However, because of a lack of reliable secondary sources, so the edit was reverted. I leave the paragraph here for the future, in case new sources appear and it may be included again:


 * To facilitate the transition, a browser extension was developed to automatically redirect users to independent wikis instead of Fandom wikis. The extension seems to be supported by different migrated wikis.

Cozyenby (talk) 14:12, 17 February 2024 (UTC)