Talk:Fashion (2008 film)

POV
The sources cited do not mention that a "women-centric film" or "whole female cast" should be a hindrance to the film doing well financially, so those sentences should be removed. BollyJeff &#124;  talk  18:28, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Look at this source which say [The list of women-driven films that wrote a success story at the box office is not very long. One of the few such films is Madhur Bhandarkar’s 2008 release Fashion]. I think User:Bollyjeff, you got your answer and this source is added in the article. Thanks. Prashant!  talk  15:20, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Not only Chopra was praised
This review says that Kitu's performance was the best:
 * http://www.rajeevmasand.com/uncategorized/masands-verdict-fashion-is-all-masala-no-reality/

These two reviews say that Kangana's performance was the best:
 * http://www.sify.com/movies/review-fashion-is-a-showstopper-review-bollywood-14786234.html
 * http://www.planetbollywood.com/displayReview.php?id=f110508042504

This should be noted in the article. BollyJeff &#124;  talk  18:20, 7 June 2013 (UTC)


 * I have added one quotes for each of the performances. Yet, I want to tell you that I used only one quote to praise the performances of the cast. Means one for Chopra, Ranaut and Godse. But, I think you are just keen to criticize. I hope your issues were resolved. Prashant  21:28, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Quotes
In the particularly, there's a lot of unintentional plagiarism. It's not enough to insert a footnote; if you're using whole phrases and sentences from reviews (not rewriting them in your own words), they need to be in quotes (and should be sparingly used). If readers want to see a review, they can follow the link from the footnote.  Mini  apolis  19:20, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I will try to go over this section to reduce close paraphrasing.--Dwaipayan (talk) 17:03, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Not a "commercial success"
Box Office India, the most reliable box office source for Indian films clearly mentions Fashion as an average grosser, as can be seen from this source: http://www.boxofficeindia.com/showProd.php?itemCat=215 The POV glorification must be removed from the article. -- smaro jit  HD 09:13, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Any plans to correct same claims from Kahaani? Dwaipayanc told me that the business of indian cinema is not crystal clear, so we can use other sources. Much like what he has used for Kahaani and what you have used in Vidya Balan's page. Fashion was a commercial success. you yourself have mentioned Ghulam a hit and when Bolyjeff noticed you changed it to commercial success. It was not even questioned if Anjaana Anjaani's actress was Vidya or Rani. When you used the same technique Where was POV? Dont waste our time.— Prashant 16:20, 4 August 2013 (UTC)


 * I would appreciate comments from User: Bollyjeff and User: Crisco 1492 on this matter. Thank you. -- smaro jit  HD 18:40, 4 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Technically speaking, if the film earned even a rupee more than it spent, it is success in the commercial form. But you guys carry on as there is more to this discussion than substance. §§ Dharmadhyaksha §§ {T/C} 18:52, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you Dharmadhyaksha. I am pointing out a simple fact, which is proved by the source provided. If it is false, then please correct me. But my motive is to have a discussion of "substance" and nothing more. -- smaro jit  HD 18:59, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Though I agree with Dharmadhyaksha that, technically, any film which earned a profit is a critical success, I think the best way would be to find some solid numbers. "success" may be relative, but numbers are not. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:43, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Here are some solid sources: Any more questions??— Prashant 02:50, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
 * [The list of women-driven films that wrote a success story at the box office is not very long. One of the few such films is Madhur Bhandarkar’s 2008 release Fashion].
 * ['Fashion' rocks box office, nets Rs 33.6 cr in week 1l]
 * [Winning in fashion]
 * The first two sources are not reliable ones, and the third one mentions the business done in the first week only. Box Office India gives the overall "verdict" on the performance of the film, which is average. So yes, it may have been successful but not on such a large scale. This needs to be reflected on the article. -- smaro jit  HD 03:12, 5 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Adding "average", if supported by sources, would be fine. ("average commercial success") — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:17, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, Box Office India's source proves it so: http://www.boxofficeindia.com/showProd.php?itemCat=215 -- smaro jit  HD 03:22, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Who told you the first one is not a reliable source? iDiva is apart of The Times of India group and the last one says that the film was a successfull. The first one also says it was a commercial hit.
 * [articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2008-11-26/box-office/27942050_1_john-abraham-love-triangle-box-office Top 5 Films at the Box Office]. I can provide 10000 of sources which sys it was a commercial success.— Prashant 03:37, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Do you guys have any hard numbers? Like "Made x krore on a budge of y krore" or something. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:40, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Scratch that, you do. I've removed two redundant instances of "commercial success", though the others need consensus first.

Also, The film was made on the budget of 18 cr.— Prashant 03:49, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

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