Talk:Fast & Furious

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Profit
Hi guys, I am going to delete the profit column. Profit is not gross - budget. That would not include costs such as marketing + distribution. Also gross does not include DVD/Blu-ray revenue as well. Because of this, profit is completely erroneous. I'll do the changes in a few days. If anyone objects, speak up. Yialanliu (talk) 02:43, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Naming
Nice article. Good job. I'm just wondering, shouldn't it be named "The Fast and the Furious (series)"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by MrStalker (talk • contribs) 21:05, February 8, 2008


 * Thanks, I've considered doing this since it kept popping up at AFD, so I figured this would be a fairly acceptable substitute, no matter how the fourth film's article proceeds. I'm not sure about the use of parentheses, though.  I don't think there is a standard.  While there is Spider-Man film series, Batman film series, and Superman film series, there's also Pirates of the Caribbean (film series).  Do you have any substantive opinion about why parentheses should be used?  I think that both capture the general idea, though I guess I would prefer no parentheses because for examples like Batman and Superman, we don't call the overall series Batman or Superman.  I think we've avoided calling them "Batman films" or "Superman films" because there are other films related to it, especially animated ones.  For this film, there's a 1955 film, but it's not connected to the 21st century ones. — Erik  (talk • contrib) - 01:41, 9 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, the only thing I could find about is this, which says it should be named "Film Title (film series)". I don't know if the parentheses matters so much though, but if you follow the guideline by word I guess the article should be named "The Fast and the Furious (film series)". At WP:VG, where I do most of my contributions, we say that the disabmig. always should be as short as possible, hence just the "(series)". But that's our guideline so per WP:FILM it should be "(film series)". -- Mr Stalker  ( talk ) 09:26, 9 February 2008 (UTC)


 * My last point to make is if we actually reference the article itself in another article, we have to rewrite in the piped link to exclude parentheses. (Though I guess we could call it "the film series The Fast and the Furious...)  Feel free to make the move with the naming conventions.  Perhaps the other ones need addressing; I've just been accustomed to that setup, so I emulated it here. — Erik  (talk • contrib) - 14:05, 9 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I think it's probably best to follow WP:NCF. Page moved. -- Mr Stalker  ( talk ) 15:22, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Future film
Also, I'm not sure about using Future film in the article, as it's technically not an upcoming film. It's a project in development with people figuring out what resources and how much of it to invest at this point. There are quite a few films that have been in development for quite some time, yet they can't truly be called "upcoming" as they don't get across the threshold to actually be made. Couple of examples off the top of my head are Logan's Run (2010 film) and Fahrenheit 451 (2009 film). — Erik (talk • contrib) - 14:12, 9 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Fair enough. I'll remove the template. -- Mr Stalker  ( talk ) 15:14, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

I added a new section titled "Future" with some references. CollisionCourse (talk) 12:14, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Sequal name
i changes the name in the characters section from 5 fast 5 furious there is no official source stating that this is the name until there is an official source about the name it has been changed to unnamed sequal —Preceding unsigned comment added by Diesal 11 (talk • contribs) 04:23, 30 July 2009 (UTC)


 * The source does say Fast XI, but they are referencing Diesels instagram post, which does NOT say that (it just confirms that the next film is the final one). So the source is extrapolating without cause. Rcarter555 (talk) 20:38, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

CHRONOLOGY
Tokyo Drift would have to be the last movie because Han's character will be present in Fast Five.

JBLING316 (talk) 06:42, 26 October 2009 (UTC) I WAS WONDERING WHY THE 5TH MOVIE OF "THE FAST AND THE FURIOUS" IN THE CHRONOLOGY AREA IS AFTER "THE FAST AND THE FURIOUS: TOKYO DRIFT"?? JBLING316 (talk) 06:42, 26 October 2009 (UTC) PUT IT THIS WAY: THE FAST AND THE FURIOUS (NOT IN JAIL) 2 FAST AND 2 FURIOUS (NOT IN JAIL) FAST AND FURIOUS (IS PUT IN JAIL) TOKYO DRIFT (IS IN MOVIE) THE FAST AND THE FURIOUS:FIFTH GEAR(?) (IS OBVIOUSLY MOST LIKELY RELEASED FROM JAIL) JBLING316 (talk) 06:42, 26 October 2009 (UTC) ACCORDING TO THIS CHRONOLOGY HOW CAN DOM GO FROM BEING IN JAIL AT THE END OF FAST AND FURIOUS TO BEING OUT OF JAIL DURING TOKYO DRIFT BUT YET BEING RELEASED(MOST LIKELY) FROM JAIL IN THE 5TH MOVIE OF THE FAST AND THE FURIOUS??JBLING316 (talk) 06:42, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Remember they are breaking Dom out of jail at the end of Fast and Furious. He is on the run in Fast Five, and I presume he is on the run in Tokyo Drift because at the end he says "I got nothing but time". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.67.3.194 (talk) 05:24, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

In Fast 5 they drive Dodge Charger 2011. So, Tokyo Drift is set in the future? - Claudio —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.234.139.66 (talk) 12:53, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Tokyo Drift happens between 6 and 7 as Han was killed by D.Shaw (as seen on F7). The chronological order is definitely not correct. Qoushik (talk) 19:17, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Better Luck Tomorrow
Can people interested in the franchise please come to Template talk:The Fast and the Furious and discuss the appropriateness or inappropriateness of a link to Better Luck Tomorrow in that navbox? Thank you, Amalthea  08:46, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Chronology
Has anyone considered the possibility that Tokyo Drift actually takes place not AFTER Fast and Furious, but DURING it? It would play out like this: The opening of Fast and Furious, with Dom, Han and crew are hijacking the fuel tankers. After they all split up, there is an undefined period of time until we rejoin Dom in Panama City. Who's to say that he wasn't roaming the world during this undefined time, and that the events of Tokyo Drift take place during this interval in the film? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.232.158.127 (talk) 18:56, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Once Again Han's character dies in tokyo drift. Han's character is in the fifth movie, if you check out the pics on set Han is clearly in the movie. He is also listed on wikipedia as starring in fast five. Therefore unless Han's character faked his death in Tokyo Drift, Fast Five must take place before Tokyo Drift.

QUESTION: Given the name of the film "Faster" and the appearance of actor Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson in both "Faster" and "Fast Five", would it be of interest to mention that "Faster" is NOT related to this film series at all? I know I had some confusion about this on a personal level.

NinjaWTFBBQ: Tokyo drift is after everything. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.35.93.74 (talk) 05:07, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

The fast & furious is awesome! I wish and hope they don't stop making the movies. I am the biggest fan of the fast & furious film series! I know every movie word for word and the movies are so addicting I watch them over and over again!

-THE BIGGEST FAN ! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.213.198.2 (talk) 16:27, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

- Claudio Hi Folks, in Fast 5 they drive Dodge Charger 2011. So, is Tokyo Drift set in the future? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.234.139.66 (talk) 12:57, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

I added a comment saying the chronology should be removed because it seems people are assuming that Tokyo Drift is the last film. I would agree with that given Han's death. On one hand I feel this is how it should be but is that merely speculation seeing as Letty's character died in Fast & Furious, but she is known to be alive after the credits of Fast Five. I only bring this up because my comment I posted was deleted without so much as a reason. I would just like to know is it ok to setup the page as the timeline chronology? Or should it be setup by release? I do agree that Tokyo drift is probably set ahead of these films but I feel I am only speculating! Please let me know what you think. 199.245.32.210 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:47, 23 May 2011 (UTC).

F7 happens after Tokyo Drift as the crew attends Han's funneral on F7 and on F6 (post credits) its shown that D.Shaw kills Han. So, F5 > F6 > TD > F7. Qoushik (talk) 19:21, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Order of Films
It is mentioned in the section "Film Series in Chronological Order" that the films are not shown in order by release date, but how events actually occurred. This is false. The films are discussed in order of release date. Which one should be edited? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.160.63.107 (talk) 20:36, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Disambiguation
About the disambiguation page of the films, on the disambiguation the 2013 movie is not yet referenced but here it is, its somewhat confusing. And since I never joined any wiki projects, I have no idea how to bring it to the disambiguation projects attention. < The Fast Saga < Jasperwillem (talk) 03:25, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Lucas Black
Is there a source that he is returning for the seventh movie? DanielDPeterson ( talk ) 20:11, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

F&F6
This section reads exactly like the studio promo material. Can we clean this up so this doesn't look like a marketing department got in here? Blackfyr (talk) 21:14, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
 * The section was indeed plagiarized straight from the promotional material. I've removed the paragraphs. They can be restored if the details can be recapped in a neutral tone per WP:NPOV and with an inline citation. Erik (talk &#124; contribs) 21:56, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Requested move (February 2013)

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The result of the move request was: not moved no clear support Tiggerjay (talk) 04:46, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

The Fast and the Furious (film series) → The Fast and the Furious – At this point, with a sixth and seventh film planned for the series, it is hard to see how the film series is not the primary topic of this title. I would move the disambiguation page currently at The Fast and the Furious to The Fast and the Furious (disambiguation), and move this page to the undisambiguated title. bd2412 T 12:56, 15 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment: Worth noting, the disambiguation page views are far less than the film series page views. Most people are getting to the film series page in ways other than the disambiguation page. It's possible that when someone types the beginning of this term in Wikipedia search, they see in the drop-down menu of suggested topics what they want to click on and basically bypass the disambiguation page. I've also seen evidence that hatnotes are not as well-used as previously thought, so I do not think we need to change the status quo here. Erik (talk &#124; contribs) 14:34, 15 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Oppose the name of the film series is very amorphous, many calling it the Fast and Furious film series or Fast film series, with "The Fast and Furious" being only the first film of the series. The box set image used on this article even says "Fast & Furious", not "The Fast & the Furious" ; Therefore the disambiguation page is best. -- 65.92.180.137 (talk) 22:08, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
 * The name of this article, however, is The Fast and the Furious (film series), not Fast & Furious (film series), or some other variation. If this is an incorrect title, than a proposal should be made to move this page to Fast & Furious (film series), or something else more suitable. The question remains whether the primary meaning of the phrase, "The Fast and the Furious", is this film series, or nothing at all. bd2412  T 04:58, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I would say that it is clearly not, since the film series is known by many different names. The boxset doesn't support the current name anyways. -- 65.92.180.137 (talk) 04:58, 18 February 2013 (UTC)


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Chronology
Are we sure that 2 Fast 2 Furious takes place before Fast and Furious and Fast Five? It doesnt make too much sense for Brian to be an agent, not be an agent and start a garage and then be a federal agent again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.253.192.18 (talk) 18:08, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

After the events of the first film, Brian is no longer a cop. Customs come to him in Part 2, he strikes a deal to not go to jail, and he & Roman bring down the bad guy. Now ignore Tokyo Drift at this point, at least until where Diesel shows up at the end. And forget the reason why Dom showed up at the end of 3, which linked to the 4th film. We may have to assume that he is there because of the death of Han and that Letty, Brian, and Mia are back in Los Angeles with their records still clean. (Because of the events of 6.)

Now think back to the events of 4, Dom & Letty alone working the fuel truck job. He then ditches her, which sends Letty to Brian (NOW an FBI agent) in Los Angeles. He sends her undercover to Braga's crew. But apparently at this time (as told in 6) Braga was working with Shaw (baddie from 6) knew about both Brian and Letty and tried to have her killed. SPOILER ALERT! When Shaw realized that Letty survived the car explosion & hit in the 4th film, he tried to finish her in the hospital, but found out she was an amnesiac and had no memory. So he took her in and she became part of his crew. All while the events of the 4th film continue all the way up until the end of the 6th film. Everything from Han dieing in Tokyo Drift up until the end of Fast 6 and the post credits scene after Fast 6 ALL LOOP TOGETHER in one storyline of continuity. It basically makes 4, 5, & 6 be prequels, turning them into 3, 4, & 5 respectively. Fast & Furious 7 now continues from where Tokyo Drift & it's cut scene at the end of "Six" left off. I hope that I was able to make that as little confusing as possible. Aidensdaddy2k9 (talk) 21:42, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Michelle Rodriguez
The chart indicates that Michelle Rodriguez was in Fast Five. This is complete stretch. She appeared in a photograph that was in the film. She wasn't actually in the movie. ask123 (talk) 16:02, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

"Ian Sahw" as the main villain
What is the source for this? 81.152.238.46 (talk) 17:23, 9 June 2013 (UTC) Stupid logging out on Mobile device. This was I. -- MisterShiney    ✉    20:54, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Vince and Han
I can not find the name VINCE in the character table and also HAN, i think he did not showed up in Fast and Furious (4th movie)

202.147.198.243 (talk) 09:15, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Han character
Sorry, I was wrong Han did appear at the beginning of Fast and Furious (4th)

202.147.198.243 (talk) 10:28, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

The Fast and the Furious (franchise)
It's a little confusing to users since the first film was titled "The Fast and the Furious", I think it needs the "(franchise)" for clarification. Lady Lotus • talk 15:08, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
 * The Fast and the Furious (franchise) already redirects here, so anyone searching for that title will find this page. I have now specified in the lede that the first film was also titled The Fast and the Furious to avoid confusion, but since there is a 1955 film titled The Fast and the Furious, the 2001 film can not sit at this title unless it is established to be the primary topic of the term, over and above the franchise as a whole. bd2412  T 15:55, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Revisit
I would like to revisit this discussion that fizzled out/went nowhere. The article isn't the guaranteed to be the article that a user is always looking for when they search "Fast & Furious" (given the fact that there are other releases with similar titles). Yes, I can see that there was some work done to make some distinction, but I don't know that it was enough. In reality, this article may need a Fast & Furious (franchise) title, meanwhile the 2001 film and the 1955 film's can have the specifications of their respective years and that they're films (as-is). This page should be considered for a more specific title.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 04:41, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Another ref to Fast & Furious (7) Movie for 2015
QUOTE: 'He'd want you to know first': Vin Diesel announces release date for Fast & Furious 7 as he posts a picture of his final scene with Paul Walker By DAILY MAIL REPORTER PUBLISHED: 23:41 EST, 22 December 2013 | UPDATED: 07:17 EST, 23 December 2013 UNQUOTE His younger brother may fill in (distant shots). -- FYI, Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 16:09, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
 * http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2528235/Vin-Diesel-announces-release-date-Fast-Furious-7-posts-picture-final-scene-Paul-Walker.html

The future of this franchise looks bright
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=125147

Looks like there will be three more films. Nikki Lee 1999 (talk) 18:11, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Requested moves (8 December 2014)

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The result of the move request was: consensus not to move the 2001 film to the plain title; no consensus to move the franchise article at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 01:20, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

– More commonly referred to as Fast & Furious Unreal7 (talk) 20:12, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
 * The Fast and the Furious → Fast & Furious
 * The Fast and the Furious (2001 film) → The Fast and the Furious
 * Oppose since the first film is not the primary topic over the series as a whole. If the second proposed move in this multimove request is removed, then I'm neutral. Steel1943  (talk) 22:05, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
 * But there wouldn't be a primary topic if the two subjects have different titles. Unreal7 (talk) 22:07, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
 * The differences in the titles "The Fast and the Furious" vs. "Fast & Furious" are so minor that it doesn't successfully disambiguate the titles. If fact, if I recall, "Fast & Furious" could refer specifically to ... I think the 4th or 5th film in the series, but only those who have been following the series would know that. To most others, the two terms are synonymous, and thus, do not provide sufficient title disambiguation to be useful to most. Steel1943  (talk) 22:11, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Also, as stated in a section above, The Fast and the Furious (1955 film) also exists, and no claim has been made yet in this this discussion that validates the 2001 film being the clear primary topic over the 1955 film, which is not part of the film series. Steel1943  (talk) 22:27, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Final addition, for now: this the first move in this request would actually be to move The Fast and the Furious to Fast & Furious per WP:PRECISE since the latter already redirects to the former. (So, this move request essentially is to deem the film series article a primary topic for only one of the two terms instead of both, then deem the first film of the series the primary topic of the longer title.) Steel1943  (talk) 00:21, 9 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Update - changing the first request to just "Fast & Furious" since it already redirects there. Unreal7 (talk) 00:27, 9 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Oppose per Steel, the primary topic is the film series, not the first film. "Fast & Furious", "Fast and Furious", "The Fast and the Furious", etc should all refer to the film series, not the individual films. -- 67.70.35.44 (talk) 10:48, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Oppose; where the franchise is more important than any instillment in the franchise, it gets the base page name. See Star Wars, Star Trek, Planet of the Apes, Jurassic Park, The Hunger Games, etc. bd2412  T 21:23, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Comment - the first move request is more necessary than the second one IMO. Unreal7 (talk) 22:46, 11 December 2014 (UTC)


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Requested move 21 December 2014

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The result of the move request was: not moved. -- Calidum 05:25, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

The Fast and the Furious → Fast & Furious – The reason everyone opposed this move was because of the second request. If I ignore that request, surely this one can be made. Unreal7 (talk) 14:43, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Oppose since I do not see a reason to change the name of the title of this article about the series, given that almost all of the movies that are part of this series seem to have a different naming scheme. Per what I stated in the previous discussion, the series seemed to change its naming scheme around the 4th or 5th film, but now, it looks as though the more publicized name for the 7th film in the series is going to be "Furious" with no additional words. It's probably best to leave the title as is. Steel1943  (talk) 22:03, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
 * The reason was given in the previous request, if you look there. Unreal7 (talk) 14:42, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Oppose – the current title seems to be what series and franchise are common called. Dicklyon (talk) 23:53, 22 December 2014 (UTC)


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Why was the "Future" section removed?
A guy named "BieberLover" made a pretty complex edit early in January this year that deleted the section on the future of the franchise. Was this vandalism, or was it done for a reason? 2601:C:A780:C8C:BC16:79A9:8354:33D2 (talk) 04:01, 2 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Dunno... it was done by some ip user who made several nuisance edits. I have replaced the content that was blanked. Hopefully some page followers will review it and determine what should remain, (and hopefully add to it). - the WOLF  child  05:21, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Ratings
Shouldn't the films'Oldspring (talk) 23:30, 20 March 2015 (UTC) ratings be included?Oldspring (talk) 23:28, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 January 2016
Please add the semi lock

122.62.42.99 (talk) 03:18, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 07:06, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

Chronology format
Right now the in-world chronology is numbered, while the release chronology has dates. I'd say that it should rather be like vice versa. As movies are usually numbered by release order, but their internal chronology has more to do with the dates of their story. 178.48.52.73 (talk) 07:23, 3 May 2016 (UTC)


 * That would be pointless. The reason why the "story chronology" table is there is to show the in-world chronology. What would be the point of showing them in order of release date in a "story chronology" table if the release dates are already there to serve that purpose?  4TheWynne (talk) (contribs)  09:22, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Fast & Furious 6 name change
The original title is Furious 6. I just saw the movie and it was called Furious 6 in the opening. We should change it.WrestlingLegendAS (talk) 13:16, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

Rocket League DLC
Somebody should add Rocket League DLC to Video games section. They were a part The Fate of the Furious promotion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.101.212.156 (talk) 17:19, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

"Box office performance" numbers
So, I see that in the box-office performance section, periods are used to separate digits in large numbers, but sometimes, commas are employed as well. Shouldn't we use commas, since this is an American franchise? Packer1028 (talk) 22:59, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

2019 changes
I have provided comprehensive improvements to the page, under this revision: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Fast_and_the_Furious&oldid=895357149

It better covers the franchise and the off-screen elements regarding its creation and development, rather than semi-decent plot rehashes of its films.

Other sections, like for characters and crew, is better designed and labelled, while the music section was wholly redeveloped to include the singles released by the franchise, alongside its numerous albums.

Furthermore, the "outside media" section was also redesigned to better detail each sub-section. May I also add, all changes were structural, and if new information was added, was sourced accordingly.

There is no quantifiable reason to return to the old version of the page, as all the edits I have made are constructive. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BoogieFreeman (talk • contribs)

Fast and Furious Producers Ignore Human Rights abuses and dictatorships
Add to the record that the Fast and Furious series will be making 'Fast and Furious 9' in Thailand. Thailand has been under a dictatorship for over five years. With a fraud election, now the Dictator and his cronies stay on longer. During the past years nearly a dozen Thais have been murdered in custody or by killers hired by the Thai dictator and royal family. The evidence is all over the Internet. Besides that hundreds of people have been charged with archaic lese majeste laws which related to criticism of the royal family. College students, including film and arts majors have been jailed for years due to these laws. Those making the Fast and Furious may find some freedom in Thailand but Thais themselves do not have that freedom. Let this willingness to work in a dictatorship and under fascism by those involved in the Fast And Furious Production by on the record. While you have your freedom to be creative, those in Thailand live in fear of being jailed just for posting the truth online!

NaturalEquality (talk) 03:57, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

Draft for tenth film
There is already an article for the ninth film, so I think an article for the 10th and final film should be made. Thank you. 2601:205:4100:CB5B:8D6C:665C:4BF0:81C5 (talk) 23:26, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Film division on this article
Some of the editors on this page have separated the film table in this article by 'main films' and 'spin-offs'. This is in no-way an official term, while in-turn continues to further make this article closer to fan-page territory. I have attempted reverting the edits to previous drafts, but the persistent edits continue. What is everyone's thoughts? My argument is regardless of when/how the film was released, they need to be listed in order of their releases.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 01:28, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I agree with you. The spin-off distinction is unnecessary, unhelpful even, they are all part of a series. Keeping the whole series together provides a better more coherent overview. Glad to see the article is not currently suffering from that problem. -- 109.79.81.162 (talk) 21:05, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Re-opening discussion
It's been some time since I first pointed this out, but the errors seem to continue. There are editors who persist that dividing up the "Film" section by arbitrary sub-sections of "The Fast Saga" and "Spin-off films" is the best layout. My reason for bring this forward yet again, is the fact that they are all movies within the franchise. Having them divided in these sectionings doesn't do much of the reader. A better approach would be to mention the mainline films and the spin-offs in pros.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 04:46, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Requested move 25 February 2020

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The result of the move request was: Moved back (non-admin closure) BegbertBiggs (talk) 00:01, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

The Fast Saga → Fast & Furious – This article has recently been moved from Fast & Furious to The Fast Saga, in response to an apparent rebranding of the series with the announcement of F9: The Fast Saga and a name change of the official website. However, I think this move is premature. Only five months before F9 was announced, Fast & Furious Presents: Hobbs & Shaw was released. Fast & Furious Spy Racers was released in December. And the video game Fast & Furious Crossroads is due to be released this May. And looking at The Fast Saga website, there's no mention of Hobbs & Shaw, which has its own website that still features the Fast & Furious name prominently. It seems likely that The Fast Saga is more akin to the Skywalker Saga—not the name of the franchise as a whole, but a way to refer to the "main" series while excluding spin-offs. Until Universal commits more to using The Fast Saga as the primary name, I think that for now, Fast & Furious is the better way to refer to this franchise, which has become famous for its wildly inconsistent naming conventions. &mdash;Will(B) 17:52, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Support moving title back to Fast & Furious. This article is about the whole franchise, and the term "The Fast Saga" is currently used by studio to refer only to 9 specific films of the franchise (not including the spin-offs), as shown in the official website. "Fast & Furious" is the more appropriate/neutral name for the series in general. YgorD3 (talk) 02:50, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Support moving title back to Fast & Furious of which the franchise is known for the bulk of its success. The Fast Saga primary topic seems to be the subtitle of the 9th film. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 03:03, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Support F&F is without a doubt the COMMONNAME and will be for some time to come, irrespective of the other good reasons to move back to the more general title. Wikipedia is not beholden to the whims of corporate "official rebranding". Axem Titanium (talk) 21:00, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Support Was there a discussion about moving it in the first place? This is definitely a Star Wars/Skywalker Saga and Marvel Cinematic Universe/Infinity Saga sort of situation. -- / Alex /21  03:42, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
 * No, an editor moved it unilaterally, was reverted, and then moved it again unilaterally. Axem Titanium (talk) 04:43, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Ah, so it was solely move-warring by, I see. I would say that the article should have been moved back (filing at WP:RM/TR if required), move-protected and then the editor should have their own RM to move it to the new Saga title. As far as I can tell, it is snowing. -- / Alex /21  04:56, 27 February 2020 (UTC)


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Producer
Interesting article from Variety.com about Diesel battling for but not getting Producer credit. Might be worth included as background information to the franchise. -- 109.79.81.162 (talk) 21:01, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Fast to the Future
Never seen it before now but there was a parody mashup trailer called Fast to the Future. IGN made it in 2015 as an April fools joke. Maybe it could be mentioned somewhere in the article? -- 109.77.193.6 (talk) 04:31, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Although, this is funny and probably was a big deal when it came out (though I don't remember it)... does it warrant being in this article? For example, who was it made by? Was it an online prank from a fan, or was it a prank from the film studios? Cheers m8s!--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 04:43, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Better Luck Tomorrow
Given the fact that the filmmaker and star have both stated that this is the character Han's "origin story", as well as the fact that they have stated this is the same character that appears in the F&F films... why is it only mentioned separately in the development section? Shouldn't it warrant being listed in the "Films" section, instead? What are the arguments against this?--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 04:48, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
 * My argument would be that because Better Luck Tomorrow is not a Universal film and since Universal owns the franchise, any film not produced by them would not be considered an official part of the franchise, no matter the intention of the director and star of the film. Until someone from Universal remarks that the film is part of the continuity, I think it needs to remain separate as an interesting anecdote, but nothing more. Rcarter555 (talk) 07:09, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Reverted edit about foreign spin-off movies
Hi can someone please tell me why my edit was reverted? It doesn't really have to be a national movie with some of the same characters from the series to be considered a spin-off movie. Foreign remakes can also be considered spin-off movies. Take a look at this example: Step Up (franchise). There's a Chinese remake of this American film series named Step Up: Year of the Dance. It's a Chinese remake that doesn't have anything to do with the American films, but it's still considered a spin-off movie. Karamellpudding1999 (talk) 07:52, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Because there is no source indicating that these are spin off films, even unofficial ones. Just because they have a similar theme and plot does not make them a spin off. The Step Up film you mentioned is by the same producers as the American films and is an official spin off. Rcarter555 (talk) 08:23, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

"Untitled Fast & Furious sequel" listed at Redirects for discussion
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Based on: "Racer X" by Ken Li
I think mentioning ""Racer X" by Ken Li" in the lead and especially in the infobox is WP:UNDUE. It is (maybe) worth mentioning in the lead for the 2001 film's article, and tables/subsections for the 2001 film here, but to bother linking to Vibe magazine and then not mentioning Gary Scott Thompson in the lead, and the nonstandard infobox formatting... The cited article itself says "just about none of Li's original article made it the big screen." 70.163.208.142 (talk) 01:10, 28 May 2023 (UTC)


 * I agree that mentioning it twice is a bit much, but it would suggest leaving it in the lead paragraph and removing it from the infobox. No matter how much of the article made it into the final film, it is credited as such in the first film (although only Gary Scott Thompson is credited as creator in any subsequent film). Rcarter555 (talk) 01:49, 28 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Yeah, the first film began the franchise, is credited as being based on the article, and it (the article) therefore is the origin. Like Jurassic Park; the later films take next to nothing from the books anymore, but the first film was based on the book, and so that is still considered the origin of the franchise. The cited article also mentions Li to have been given a lump sum with the film; in addition, one of the considered titles for the film (and franchise as a whole) was Racer X, after the article. To say it should be kept in the infobox as well as the lead, as it is specifically noted that the franchise would not exist without it, like with Jurassic Park and literally every other franchise page based on a book or article. The real issue here seems to be not mentioning Thompson in the lead as well, so let's do that. Lo Chiamavano (talk) 11:48, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

Chronology idea for infoboxes for movie articles
I feel that we should add a chronological order in the infobox template. Like it shows the previous film, the film's article you are currently reading, and the next the film in the series/trilogy/franchise, in this case the latter. I feel it would simpilize reading Wikipedia and help others read articles about the F&F movies more smoothly rather than having to jump up to the search box or find a link mentioned in this article or scroll all the way down to the category box. Just a suggestion. I also posted this in The Fast and The Furious talk page.

Purplelavendermidnights 17 (talk) 18:52, 2 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Follow up to suggestion: I posted in the first movie's talk page because that is where it would start if anyone was curious.
 * Purplelavendermidnights 17 (talk) 19:15, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

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Untitled Fast X sequel
The source I found says the eleventh film would be titled Fast Xi, but another user said it doesn't say the title of the film. Could you look into the source to see what the title of the final main installment would be? The Media Expert (talk) 20:22, 26 February 2024 (UTC)