Talk:Fatboy (EastEnders)

Twitter
Fatboy has an official Twitter account run by the BBC. I feel this should be mentioned, but where and how? Anemone Projectors  20:02, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * In other media?  GunGagdin Moan 21:16, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Well we already have "Other appearances" - this isn't really an "other apperance" but are those other appearances also "other media"?. Maybe it belongs in development... Anemone  Projectors  21:48, 9 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Hmmm, I dont think so as it's not really about character development. I would say in 'other appearances' if you dont want to add an 'other media' section.  GunGagdin Moan 21:58, 9 August 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm just wondering if it means he'll be appearing in series 2 of E20 and this is a part of that - if it's related then it might be some kind of development. But for now I will go with other appearances. Anemone  Projectors  22:31, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Reception
Just found this from the Guardian, wondered if it could be used in the reception section -

"[..] triumphantly, best newcomer for Fatboy. The latter wasn't just a win for actor Ricky Norwood – it was a win for all obnoxiously two-dimensional dubstep-fixated stock characters transparently modelled on Jar Jar Binks". - JuneGloom07    Talk?  17:43, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Stuart Heritage really doesn't like Fatboy :-) I'll stick it in. Anemone  Projectors  17:46, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Done and put with his other quote, rather than next to his award win, because that just totally takes away from it and is completely unbalanced. I don't get the Jar Jar Binks comparison at all, though that's the second one now! Anemone  Projectors  18:00, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Jar Jar Binks is primarily used to provide comic relief in Star Wars, George Lucas put him in the film for younger viewers. The character wasn't well received at all. - JuneGloom07    Talk?  18:44, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh yeah. I thought they were comparing the way he talks lol Anemone  Projectors  19:09, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Source

 * Frickative 16:47, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
 * --- Is this useable??? If you do the quiz with mostly Cs, it describes Fatboy's personality. – Anemone Projectors – 10:46, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Interview: Ricky Norwood answers fans' questions – Anemone Projectors – 10:43, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Award Nom. — M.Mario  (T/C) 11:47, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Video interview with some good info – Anemone Projectors – 10:22, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Moving to Fatboy
Looking at the Fatboy page, it's only a redirect to the Fat Boy disambiguation page. Can we move Arthur's page to Fatboy? Is this possible?  GSσяву  Dιng Dσng! 23:37, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
 * IMO no, as there are other articles called "Fatboy". But if you feel that strongly about it, see WP:RM and follow the instructions. – Anemone Projectors – 23:48, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

E20 series 3
Although nothing explicitely says that Fatboy will appear, one of the cast members said "It has been amazing and such good fun especially working with Fatboy (Ricky Norwood) - he is a really nice guy. One of the best experiences of my life." Does this mean he will be in series 3? – Anemone Projectors – 11:17, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
 * This will give you the answer,: It shows Fatboy and Grace Olubunmi rehearsing scenes. Mercy's no where to be seen, meanign she could have left, meaning Grace is staying after Mercy has left.  Mayhem  Mario  15:53, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that's very very very helpful. I've not got much time on the internet at the moment so can't look for these things. – Anemone Projectors – 15:18, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Death
OK, DTC promised that there would be a death on Christmas Day. It was obvious between Ronnie and Vincent's discussion that Fatboy was in the boot instead of Vincent. Vincent then went to the car crusher and when he opened the boot he was sick, there is no way he would be sick if all he uncovered was a mobile phone and a necklace. EastEnders have made it so we can get from that scene that Fatboy has died, we may not have seen an actual body but it is obvious.

Can we therefore please stop changing the article to stop mentioning that his body has been found?--5 albert square (talk) 21:47, 27 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Yes, all sources are saying he is dead, so we can't say otherwise. What we don't know is exactly what killed him, but I would say he suffocated, because he died when the knocking stopped before the crushing happened, and he was gagged so suffication seems likely. Anemone  Projectors  21:56, 27 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Neither gagging (after all that time) nor being locked in a car boot would suffocate someone. It might make them unconscious through reduced oxygen but I can't see how they would die.  Since we haven't yet been told exactly how he died, anything we say in the article cannot say he suffocated, which would be WP:OR at the least. Stephenb (Talk) 22:02, 27 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Unless a source states otherwise we do not know. He may have been unconscious then crushed to death. On DS it said something along the lines of it being left to the viewers imagination. Rain  the 1  22:08, 27 December 2015 (UTC)


 * If we say that Vincent saw Fatboy's body then that should be enough as that's what we saw. He's the only cast member from them not to be credited in any of the credits from now on, so I think we can safely say it was Fatboy that died.................--5 albert square (talk) 22:11, 27 December 2015 (UTC)


 * I didn't want to say how he died in this article, because we don't know, but WP:EE/BMD has had a lot of changes. maybe EastEnders writers think gagging and being locked in a car boot could suffocate someone. It was implied that the death occured at the time the knocking stopped.  Anemone  Projectors  22:45, 27 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Yes, it's possible they did, but (a) they're usually better researched than that and (b) that's entirely your supposition. He's dead, but we don't know exactly how he died yet.  I don't think it was implied that he died when the knocking stopped at all, just that whoever was in the boot was unable to knock any more.  We know that Fatboy was scared of confined spaces, so perhaps he just passed out in fear.  Stephenb (Talk) 22:58, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

I'm just curious to know where suffocation comes from. I looked up several articles online where somebody was locked in a trunk/boot for several hours and they have n to suffocated. Plus if most cars have a pass through from the middle seat, I don't necessarily think it would be airtight. Although this is my theory and I can't back it up, I believe he died from a heart attack. The fear of being locked in the trunk/boot of a car with Ronnie taunting him saying he was gonna die and the goons most likely roughing him up would be enough to cause a fatal heart arrhythmia. But then again, they could have taken him out of it before they went to the scrapyard and then killed him. Anyway, I doubt we'll ever know. Arjoccolenty (talk) 05:14, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
 * There's no evidence to suggest it was a heart attack, but if you think it's impossible that he suffocated, then we will never know, unless we are told (in the real world). So on WP:EE/BMD I've said unknown causes and then described the circumstances. Anemone  Projectors  11:56, 28 December 2015 (UTC)


 * I've read a couple of sources now that say he was crushed, which are news reports on the reaction to the death. Anemone  Projectors  15:24, 1 January 2016 (UTC)


 * I personally think that it is rather clear that Fatboy was indeed crushed as that is what was meant to happen to Vincent. He wouldn't have suffocated in the car, and also there is a policy on no original research here. Chesnaught555 (talk) 15:30, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I agree (now). But I think this should be heavily sourced in the article. Anemone  Projectors  15:45, 1 January 2016 (UTC)