Talk:Fateme Asadi

Misc questions, comments
Hi. I'm working on copyediting this article per your GOCE request. I may need your help on a few things, and if I have any non-copyediting feedback, I'll include it below. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 19:08, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Do you have any way to access this link? If so, could you generate a working archive link? Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 19:08, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm accessing this source via machine translation, but it seems to be saying that Asadi was buried at the Imam Reza shrine. Do we have conflicting info from different sources? Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 19:08, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I recommend citing the original, Persian title for sources and then using the trans-title parameter for the English translation. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 19:08, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi Firefangledfeathers and thanks for your time.
 * This url can not be opened from outside Iran and Internetarchivebot could not archive it, though it's not dead.
 * The Mehrnews source says Asadi'd 'funeral' was held there. It does not say she was buried there.
 * I will add the original titles.
 * -- M h hossein   talk 06:16, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I think my main question about the only-Iran source is related to the article text "are among the other pillars of this award", which is uncommon phrasing in English. Would it be accurate to say that those groups of women are "potential recipients of the award", according to that source? Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 06:28, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, that can be translated as "potential recipients of the award" based on the source text. -- M h hossein   talk 06:32, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

Page NPOV
The sources and their dependency was reviewed during the DYK process. Ignoring ALL the sources solely for being Iranian is not a valid reason here. I don't think the current status of the page is against WP:NPOV. Regarding this edit by an IP with edits only on this page, the mentioned source seem to WP:ADVOCATE the KDPI agenda. At best, the reliability should be assessed at WP:RSN. -- M h hossein   talk 11:47, 31 July 2023 (UTC)


 * I only say my first and last words once and that's it! I don't have time for editorial wars and speeches and I don't even know this person.  I am not a supporter of the PDKI or any other party, look at your edits, there is no other source than the media of the Iranian government.  I am very familiar with the regime's sites and there is no truth in them, moreover, I did not reject them because they were Iranian, but because they were government.  If you have another source, either Persian or English, from neutral sources, please include it, otherwise, both the opinion of the Iranian government, which is the accuser, and the PDKI's sources, which are accused, should be included.  Please refrain from distorting the discussion, thanks. 83.120.229.231 (talk) 12:33, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
 * 83.120.229.231, can you find a more reliable source for the claim? VR talk 20:57, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
 * "I did not reject them because they were Iranian, but because they were government", "If you have another source, either Persian or English, from neutral sources, please include it";...I have already included Alef in the sources, which is both neutral and non-governmental. This is while there are more of them, Kurd Press like Ejtemay. Also, I have raised doubts over the reliability of the Kurdish source. -- M h hossein   talk 07:12, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
 * PDKI own website is used to say they were not guilty...! -- M h hossein   talk 07:30, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
 * All the sources you mentioned have been quoted by government sources. If Alef Site is neutral, why does it say about itself in one of the paragraphs: ""An effort to influence and direct policy-making in the direction of uplifting Islamic Iran and realizing the goals set forth in the 20-year vision document of the Nezam"? At least click on the "About Us" option on those sites or analyze some of their sources to know that these sites are close to the government and use the government's own literature? Whether we like it or not, most of the websites "inside Iran" are close to the government, and some who consider themselves neutral imitate the same websites or follow their path in an imperceptible way. In addition, I neither denied nor confirmed the way this person was killed. I also used the website of PDKI for the party's own answers, not to the entire article. for the standard of this type of article, take a look at 2022 Istanbul bombing, Where both the accusation of the Turkish government and the accusation of several other parties are written. If we come to a conclusion: neither of these sites you posted are valid, nor is the site of the PDKI trusted; So, in this case, it is better to give the opinion of both sides, whether it is the Islamic Republic or the PDKI, if there is a third party source, for example, a European source, then please give it. I'm not rating here, I'm talking about Wikipedia's neutrality rules. I said whatever was necessary and I don't think there is any value in continuing the discussion. Also The change I made is also consistent with the three main policies of Wikipedia (1, 2 & 3), thank you. 109.225.189.26 (talk) 12:09, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
 * So it seems you don't have a reliable source for the big claim you inserted into the lead. As for Alef, it's independent unless you can find an evidence saying so. Please don't rely on yourself analysis of what "about us" say. Also please note that nearly all the media outlets are efforts to "influence". -- M h hossein   talk 06:25, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I have only put the claim of the accused side, not my own analysis. I am not responsible for its accuracy or inaccuracy, just as the accuracy of the complainant's sources is not your responsibility. good day. 109.225.155.124 (talk) 19:15, 9 August 2023 (UTC)