Talk:Faust, Part Two

Comment
hi. i haven't read the book or seen the play, yet was interested enough to read this article. i thought i'd help by improving the grammar a little. i found that i couldn't make too many changes for fear of losing the intended meaning.

anyway, hope it helps.

.michael


 * Comment Restructured and cleaned-up. Could still do with some cross-referencing particularly to other works on/about Faust.  Marcus22 15:32, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

"Similarities between Faust and Goethe in the text are often obvious." This is nonsense, therefore I'll delete it. My judgement is based on "Faust-Dichtungen" by Ulrich Gaier as cited in the article for Part I. --Jean Winkler 16:45, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

I also don't think that metal band trivia has any relevance here. Especially in light of the very short content summary of the drama... --Jean Winkler 16:51, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Stub?

 * Why has this article gone from a regular article to a stub? --YankeeDoodle14 21:11, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Question
Part I is based on the legend of Faust, a legend that goes back at least to Marlowe's play. But what about this Part II? Is it more freely created by Goethe in its plot? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Leonardo Teixeira de Oliveira (talk • contribs) 20:57, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Only part of Faust I is directly related to the legend, which goes back at least to the beginning of 16th century (thus is older than Marlowe's play). The "Gretchen"-plot is, to my knowledge, a complete invention of Goethe. As for Faust II, the legend (at least in a version of the 18th century, which came to Goethe's attention) already contained Faust's marriage with Helen and an encounter with the German Kaiser. But certainly Goethe deals with the legendary material very freely in both parts. See also the article "Johann Faust" in the German Wikipedia. Emil Wiedemann (talk) 12:16, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

German Kaiser
The article says that Faust encounters the "German Kaiser", but that is utterly wrong. Such a title did not exist when Goethe published Faust II, instead it is the Holy Roman Emperor. A title like "German Emperor" (Deutscher Kaiser), often referred to as  "German Kaiser", only exists since 1871 with Wilhelm I. as the first who used it. Could someone please correct it in the article, because it leads to confusion.91.2.106.19 (talk) 23:21, 9 April 2012 (UTC)