Talk:Fazenda

Page misnamed
In Brazil, "fazenda" is also used for contempory and historical sugar plantations, orange groves, cattle ranches, and truck farms, in addition to coffee plantations. More than a misnomer, the page title results in a loss of information to English speaking users. The page should be moved to something like "Brazilian coffee plantation." --Wloveral (talk) 19:16, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Merge with "hacienda"
I think that this article must be merged with the article hacienda, which means "farm" (in English) and "fazenda" (in Portuguese). I suggest that anyone read both articles and start the merge by writing:
 * Hacienda (in Spanish) or Fazenda (in Portuguese) is usually, but not always, a vast ranch. Some haciendas in the Spanish colonies were plantations, mines, or even factories. Many haciendas combined these productive activities. In Portugal's colonies fazenda only meant a vast rural property, a ranch.


 * The hacienda system of Argentina, parts of Brazil, Mexico and New Granada was a system of large land-holdings that were an end in themselves as the marks of status. The hacienda aimed for self-sufficiency in everything but luxuries meant for display, which were destined for the handful of people in the circle of the patrón (...).

As it can be noticed, both words have the same origin, although written and spelled differently in both languages. Joao Xavier (talk) 20:24, 7 September 2008 (UTC)