Talk:Federal Intelligence Service/Archive 1

Plutonium Affair?
I think the Plutonium deal which was staged by the BND in 1994 should be addes to the article.[]

Stefan999 19:42, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Yeah rigth, then how about putting all the proven cases of kidnapping of the CIA up in their article?! There has to be a reasonable border!

169.244.70.148 16:16, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

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Wiki Editing
Perhaps the evidence of the BND editing their own articles and having their IPs leaked should be added to the article? RE: http://wikileaks.org/wiki/German_Secret_Intelligence_Service_(BND)_T-Systems_network_assignments%2C_13_Nov_2008 --204.81.230.186 (talk) 16:27, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

BND spying on East Germany
A recent article goes on a bit about this and might come as to some use for here (possibly?). Cheers!Calaka (talk) 10:37, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Possible Reference
"Conspiracy? The CIA and the Nazis" produced by Towers Productions, Inc. for the History Channel, copyright 2004 A&E Television Networks might serve as a possible reference for those seeking to expand this article. Official site. Youtube. Squideshi (talk) 20:05, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

History section
"Unsung analysts at Pullach with their contacts in the East, were literally flies on the wall in ministries and military conferences." - were they really literally flies? Is this like the dolphin squad in the u.s navy? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.172.162.82 (talk) 12:08, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Gestapo Boys
This organization was a haven for ex-Nazis English article German article article in Polish --MyMoloboaccount (talk) 11:29, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Federal Intelligence Service vs. Bundesnachrichtendienst
Is there any reason this article is not titled "German Federal Intelligence Service", as keeping with WP:EN and WP:UE? -Ich (talk) 19:13, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

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Responsible	to Where?
The article says the BND is "directly subordinated to the Chancellor's Office." The info box says the "responsible minister" is Helge Braun, Federal Minister of Special Affairs. Which is it? Are there federal ministers in the Chancellor's Office? Venqax (talk) 21:13, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

Requested move 15 March 2019

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The result of the move request was: moved (closed by non-admin page mover)  SITH   (talk)   21:18, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

Federal Intelligence Service (Germany) → Federal Intelligence Service – The German service, founded in 1956 as the west's second largest intelligence agency (around 10,000 employees during the Cold War, now 6,500) and a major player in the intelligence world and one of the most legendary Cold War-era intelligence agencies, is clearly the primary topic for this term; the two other entities listed on the disambiguation page are the Foreign (not Federal) Intelligence Service of Russia and a very new, very small and relatively unknown Swiss entity (around 2–300 employees and founded in 2010) with a somewhat different name too. --Ana Stelline (talk) 12:07, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
 * This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 14:04, 15 March 2019 (UTC)


 * There are several federally-governed states in the world, and several of them likely have intelligence services. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 14:06, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
 * That may be the case, but as they don't seem to be named "Federal Intelligence Service" (but rather things like "Foreign Intelligence Service") that isn't really relevant as far as the proper name and (capitalized) title Federal Intelligence Service is concerned. --Ana Stelline (talk) 02:24, 16 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Oppose The official website bnd.de in English says The Foreign Intelligence Service of Germany. http://www.bnd.bund.de/EN/Home/home_node.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by AadaamS (talk • contribs)
 * First of all, this article is already named "Federal Intelligence Service (Germany)", so no argument has been made that it should be named something else until now, and that is outside the scope of this primary topic-related debate on "Federal Intelligence Service (Germany)" vs. "Federal Intelligence Service."
 * Secondly, the website you are referring to uses the German form of the name, Bundesnachrichtendienst, as its proper name, and only includes the sentence "the foreign intelligence service of Germany" in a purely descriptive and uncapitalized (not capitalized as you claimed) manner.
 * Thirdly, the name "Federal Intelligence Service" seems to be very well established in English language sources as the English name of the BND over the past 60+ years. For example, a Google Books search returns 3,370 results for "BND" AND "federal intelligence service" and 2,870 results for "BND" AND "foreign intelligence service", but: in the first case "Federal Intelligence Service" is used as the (capitalized) name of the service, and in the second case "foreign intelligence service" is overwhelmingly (over 90%) merely used as an (uncapitalized) description of the service. "Federal Intelligence Service" is also the most direct translation. --Ana Stelline (talk) 02:24, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Support as clear primary topic of Federal Intelligence Service, unless a more correct title is needed as suggested above  Lazz _R  00:33, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Support. Does appear to be the primary topic for this specific title. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:36, 20 March 2019 (UTC)


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Aldi south, Aldi north typical for Germany habits —- maybe so the bnd
Selling info for ten boxes cigarettes the to enemy, or bnd was typical in the Cold War. The competition of systems is now within the agency bnd. Berlins strong, but different thoughts may lie in the special sociology of the region in and around Berlin / Brandenburg. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:E0:8F4E:EB39:446E:EC76:7E95:6DD4 (talk) 23:29, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Evacuation request CPT Khiale Gul Shenwari Afghan National Army and ISAF Member cooperator and Counter Intelligence Service Collaborations with NATO and german
Dear sir

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