Talk:Feminism in Russia/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Crisco 1492 (talk · contribs) 03:54, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

I'll take this! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:54, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Comments

 * 1
 * "shifted their focus from philanthropic works to organizing among peasants and factory workers." - Organizing among or just plain organizing?
 * I prefer "organizing among," just to avoid political jargon (you have to come from a labor organizing background to understand the distinction between general organizing, i.e., making people more organized, and political organizing, i.e., forming labor unions and such). Accedie  talk to me  05:16, 19 August 2012 (UTC)


 * "feminist lobbying gained suffrage" - gained... perhaps earned?
 * Doesn't "earned" imply that suffrage is a privilege, not a right? :-P Accedie  talk to me  05:16, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Didn't think of it that way. However, I feel "gained" suggests it was easy to do. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:21, 19 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Possible undue weight on Pussy Riot in the lede.
 * ✅ - agreed, it's exciting right now but too presentist for a neutral lede. Accedie  talk to me  04:42, 19 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Emperor or Czar?
 * Ack, I thought I fixed that! It should be emperor consistently. Will do. Accedie  talk to me  04:42, 19 August 2012 (UTC)


 * "The 1917 Revolution, catalyzed in part by women workers' demonstrations, generated a surge of membership in the organization, and in the same year, because of the society's continued lobbying, Russia became the first major world power to grant women the right to vote." - A little long, perhaps split?
 * ✅ - Sorry, I come from an academic writing background; if there aren't 34325 clauses in one sentence, ur doing it wrong! Heh. Accedie  talk to me  05:31, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I've got the same problem sometimes. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:38, 19 August 2012 (UTC)


 * theories that underlay Soviet communism - It's defunct; is underlay or underlaid better?
 * ✅ - good point! Accedie  talk to me  05:24, 19 August 2012 (UTC)


 * less - Shouldn't emphasise something willy-nilly. Perhaps remove the italics?
 * ✅ - yup. Accedie  talk to me  05:24, 19 August 2012 (UTC)


 * I did a copyedit, be sure to double check.


 * 2
 * I strongly recommend archiving your news links with www.webcitation.org . You never know when they'll die.


 * 3
 * For further development, I suggest you take a look at feminist publications and films, or works which deal mostly with women's issues (I'm sure Russia has some... Indonesia has tons, as does Canada and the US)


 * 6
 * How is File:Womanpower logo.svg free? I've nominated it for deletion.
 * No idea. Accedie  talk to me  18:43, 19 August 2012 (UTC)


 * File:Natalia Dolgorukova.JPG needs an English descriptor and a US public domain tag. It can't be PD-70 if the author is unknown. It should be PD-Russia and PD-1923
 * ✅ Accedie  talk to me  18:43, 19 August 2012 (UTC)


 * File:Anna Filosofova 2.jpg needs an English descriptor and a proper license. It can't be PD-70 if the author is unknown. Needs proof of publication to use PD-Russia (not sure how unpublished anonymous works are treated). For US tag, can use PD-US-unpublished or PD-1996
 * I found another picture of her on Commons, which looks a lot less shady than that other one – it actually has the author's name (he died in 1903) and location of the original! I'm not sure I added the right tags, though. Help? Accedie  talk to me  18:43, 19 August 2012 (UTC)


 * File:Митинг на Невском проспекте (1917).jpg needs a proper license. It can't be PD-70 if the author is unknown. Proof of publication is needed to use PD-Russia and PD-1923.
 * Yeah, this one might have to go. A shame; it's a really great image. Accedie  talk to me  18:43, 19 August 2012 (UTC)


 * File:Poster23.jpg needs the year of publication to prove it's public domain. Must be before 1946 to be eligible for use on Commons and Wikipedia, as it has to be PD in the US.
 * Sigh, this too. I'll take it out. Accedie  talk to me  18:43, 19 August 2012 (UTC)


 * File:Kitchen and fashion - that's NOT freedom.jpg is fine.
 * I'm not a Commons person and certainly no expert in license or copyright, so I'll defer to expert judgment here. I can fix the Dolgorukova image for sure; not sure about the rest (though I'll give it the old college try to figure out licensing stuff), but I'm okay with removing them if they're really untenable. Accedie  talk to me  04:56, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Worse comes to worse Filosofova could be uploaded locally because it's PD in the US. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:06, 19 August 2012 (UTC)


 * I added this to the Revolution/Soviet section instead of the two questionable ones you pointed out. Looks like a pretty safe bet to me, but what do I know? :) Accedie  talk to me  18:57, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Based on this revision
 * Spotchecks
 * FN1 - Fine. Perhaps note the lawyer was a woman (more oomph)
 * ✅ - It looks slightly... not neutral to do that, but I agree that it's an important point. I wish I knew her name so I could avoid any ambiguity/POV there, but the source doesn't say. Accedie  talk to me  05:52, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Perhaps "female lawyer" instead of "lawyer (a woman)"?
 * Erg. That variant is definitely not neutral and rather insulting, since it implies the default lawyer (or doctor, writer, any other profession) is male, and a woman practicing in the field has to be distinguished by her gender. I know in this instance it would actually be used in a subtly different and important qualifying way, but on sheer principle I just can't bring myself to do it. Damn you, systemic bias! Accedie  talk to me  06:05, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Perhaps try to dig up another source with her name? That would allow for a use without parentheticals and without the possibility for misinterpretation. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:08, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I suggested changing it primarily because I hate parentheticals pretty badly (except for translations) — Crisco 1492 (talk)
 * Me too. It was the least-bad option I could think of, but a name would be best. Ok, will work on that and the image stuff tomorrow, as it is long past my bedtime. Thanks, Crisco :) Accedie  talk to me  06:13, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Yep, cheers. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:15, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ - The Guardian comes through! Accedie  talk to me  19:16, 19 August 2012 (UTC)


 * FN25 - Fine.
 * AGF on offline sources.

Further discussion

 * On hold, mostly for the image issues. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:53, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
 * The new images look fine. Passing as a GA. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:37, 20 August 2012 (UTC)