Talk:Feminist views on BDSM

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To do
To do: some direct quotes from works opposing/supporting, more Dworkin, who is perhaps the most interesting of the anti-BDSM thinkers (see also her fictional works), and some more stuff from proponents, from both the sexual-libertarian and leatherwoman camps. -- The Anome (talk) 13:29, 25 June 2011 (UTC)


 * I've mentioned this before in the discussion pages of "Feminist views on pornography" and "Feminist views on prostitution", but what is really needed is a "Feminist views on sexuality" article, where I think the overall perspectives on sexuality from radical feminism, sex-positive feminism, and other feminisms could be discussed, and which controversies over pornography, prostitution, and BDSM are simply specialized cases.


 * BTW, there is a very early anthology called "Against Sadomasochism" which I think most clearly expounds radical feminist views on the subject. Pat Califia and the some of the other writers associated with Samois and Lesbian Sex Mafia most clearly expound the sex-positive position, with some of the "Yes Means Yes" authors providing some more recent (if at times atypical) contributions to that tendency. Iamcuriousblue (talk) 05:23, 27 June 2011 (UTC)


 * That would be Against Sadomasochism: A Radical Feminist Analysis (ISBN 9780960362837) published in 1982, which I remember being quite influential at the time. Compare and contrast Coming to Power by the pro-BDSM lesbian group Samois, published in 1981.  This has more background on the issue. -- The Anome (talk) 21:23, 16 May 2012 (UTC)


 * More to dos:

Add history of the division between radical feminists and feminist practitioners of BDSM. Also, additional references to both support BDSM as a feminist activity and opponents to BDSM being a free expression. Dgloclou (talk) 21:06, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Revised page
As part of a Capstone project for a women's and genders studies class IvyAlse and Dgloclou recreated the article on Feminist views on BDSM. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dgloclou (talk • contribs) 21:06, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

I am aware that I should add more than one person to the BDSM practitioners section and I am planning on doing this at a later date. IvyAlyse (talk) 21:12, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Section needs rewriting
The section "Porn: Misconceptions and Miscommunications" reads like an editorial piece, and needs to be re-cast into Wikipedia's NPOV style, with opinions attributed, instead of free-floating. -- The Anome (talk) 23:55, 25 September 2012 (UTC)


 * I've now removed the whole section: as is, it's off topic for this article. -- The Anome (talk) 11:56, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

The acronym BDSM is not the full and correct acronym. Need more information in that first section. The 1970's section is more quote than actual individuals work. More citations needed in the 1980's section. In the 1990's section, Hopkins needs a first name since its the first time they have been introduced. The current feminist view points needs more citations. Maybe explain what butch/femme is? Add more people and citations to the BDSM Practitioners section. Jrhepp (talk) 14:01, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

Gayle Rubin, and article structure
The current history-by-decade structure as opposed to a thematic, or "leading-figures" structure doesn't lend itself very well to discussion of serious academics in the field. In particular, the lack of a major section on Gayle Rubin stands out as a serious gap. Rubin is considered a founding figure in gay and lesbian studies, sexuality studies, and queer theory, and has written on numerous topics, including feminism and BDSM. I don't really feel like reorganizing the whole history section, so I might shoehorn it into the "1980s" section for starters, or maybe start a "Major theorists" section and initiate it with a brief subsection about her, which would invite parallel brief subsections about other academics in the field. This would have the additional fringe benefit of working well as a parent article in Summary style, with Main links to numerous related articles. Thoughts? Mathglot (talk) 02:43, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay, I've started new section #Major figures, with four subsections, mostly empty (there are Empty section templates there as placeholders). Please help expand this new section. For now, I've filled out the #Gayle Rubin subsection as a start. Mathglot (talk) 04:29, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

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