Talk:Fencing response

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There was an animated image of this occurring in a MMA fight on the front page of reddit, I'm not sure how it would work with rights or if it's relevant to the article. http://i.imgur.com/Msyze.gif — Preceding unsigned comment added by IEchuu (talk • contribs) 11:04, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
 * even if the link wasn't making a masturbation joke, it really isn't a good example of classic fencing response hand positioning. — Chris Capoccia 💬 13:03, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

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Categorization
Would it be appropriate to put this in Category:Reflexes ? Gilded Snail (talk) 18:06, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't think there are any reliable sources calling it a reflex. — Chris Capoccia 💬 13:01, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

Notable fencing displays
I don't think we need 100 of these examples. It's a common enough occurrence in contact sport. Can we pick maybe 1 from each sport or something? — Chris Capoccia 💬 13:01, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

Budda Baker - January 2022 Fencing Response vs Rams
This needs to be added. 2600:1700:AA98:4010:C83A:64F5:3B78:BA88 (talk) 08:07, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

Notable fencing displays
Many of the entires in the list are unsourced. It needs to be pared down anyway, because Wikipedia is not an exhaustive collection of information. Listing examples with no context is not encyclopedically valuable. I am going to go ahead and remove unsourced examples, and I am open to discussion about the others. TNstingray (talk) 13:47, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

I don’t believe this section belongs in Wikipedia at all, certainly not without WP:MEDRS-level sourcing by treating physicians. As it stands, it’s a compilation of YouTube videos of injured people with no encyclopedic sources to support relevance.  Julietdeltalima   (talk)  04:16, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

I have deleted almost the whole section. I’ve done this one entry at a time so there can be individual discussion if anybody actually thinks they have an argument for preservation. I left in entries sourced only behind a paywall (who knows; maybe the Telegraph’s sports editor is a board-certified neurologist who underwent a big career change) and a couple of entries in which the source acknowledged that they were only reporting on witnessed physical events.

I frankly think none of these ought to survive and will not oppose their deletion, but I am pretty sure if I had deleted the whole section it would lead to reversion and abuse, and I wanted to try to provide a basis for some level of discussion to demonstrate I’m not “just some female who hates sports,” which is far from the truth (and abjectly irrelevant in a WP:MEDRS context) but I know how these things can play out.  Julietdeltalima   (talk)  05:21, 2 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your revisions. I definitely agree with your stance, and I would vote in favor of removing the entire section at this point, until reliable medical sources are provided. TNstingray (talk) 12:52, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

List
I have tagged the article as needing cleanup, and will be doing so myself this weekend, in line with WP:OR, I'll be cleaning up to remove any supposed fencing response that does not have an article discussing the response, as simply linking to the video doesn't meet notability or verifiability guidelines. FrederalBacon (talk) 06:04, 13 May 2023 (UTC)