Talk:Fernside, Alameda, California

Edit Request - Add infobox and history

 * Add infobox:

The origins of Fernside date back to the late 19th century, a period marked by rapid growth and development in the San Francisco Bay Area. Initially, Fernside was the private 250 acre estate of Alfred A. Cohen, a lawyer, and railroad financier. Cohen's estate included a grand mansion, expansive gardens, and various outbuildings, symbolizing the wealth and status of its owner. The mansion was destroyed by fire on March 23, 1897, including an art gallery with paintings, furniture, and a library.
 * Add a History section.
 * Under history say the following:

The Cohen property, which served as an orchard and horse pasture, was subdivided in the late 1920s. The heirs of the estate planned this transition, transforming Fernside into the residential neighborhood we know today.

Greg Henderson (talk) 17:52, 6 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Infobox added. Happy Editing-- IAm Chaos  02:39, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Edit Request - Add History section
The origins of Fernside date back to the late 19th century, a period marked by rapid growth and development in the San Francisco Bay Area. Initially, Fernside was the private 250 acre estate of Alfred A. Cohen, a lawyer, and railroad financier. Cohen's estate included a grand mansion, expansive gardens, and various outbuildings, symbolizing the wealth and status of its owner. The mansion was destroyed by fire on March 23, 1897, including an art gallery with paintings, furniture, and a library.
 * Add a History section.
 * Under history say the following:

The Cohen property, which served as an orchard and horse pasture, was subdivided in the late 1920s. The heirs of the estate planned this transition, transforming Fernside into the residential neighborhood we know today.

Greg Henderson (talk) 15:34, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
 * There are several issues with your request
 * Claims not supported by your sources: In the first paragraph, your sources discuss Cohen and the fire, but unless I missed it, hardly talk about the area of Fernside at all
 * Can you point me to where "Initially, Fernside was the private 250 acres (100 ha) estate" is mentioned? Keep in mind this article is about the neighborhood, not things sharing the same name as the neighborhood; a better link must be established
 * The second paragraph, the Alameda: A Geographical History citation is an entire book and the ChatGPT reference is wholly inappropriate
 * Promotional/fluff and style issues:
 * symbolizing the wealth and status of its owner seems unnecessarily bloviating
 * transforming Fernside into the residential neighborhood we know today is both puffery and use of "we" is not proper MOS
 * -- macaddct1984 (talk &#124; contribs) 13:25, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Edit Request - Add a History section
Greg Henderson (talk) 17:17, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Add a History section.
 * Under the History section, add the following text with citation:
 * "Fernside was a major tract of land on the island of Alameda that was subdivided. It was formerly the 65 acre railroad financier Alfred A. Cohen's estate. It remained an orchard and horse pasture until the late 1920s, when Cohen's heirs put it on the market. This development marked the end of the open, park-like atmosphere that once was typical of all of Alameda.